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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - FEN AWAKE DAY STARTS | Day 5

Welp. I'm mad that Zorua got yeeted. I am happy though that I eventually swapped out Debil for Bottle in my towncore.

Man though, Kosmo, you really got me frustrated this game. :lol: We need to, like, try harder to find each other, or just make sure we successfully yeet the other earlier so that we know that we're both town and can have their reads trusted. I think I eventually started turning my read around on you near the end though.

Also, while I did expect to get nightkilled eventually, I didn't expect it to happen when it did.

Also, Cheeze! You were super-fun to play with if this was really your first game of mafia! Play more!

Everyone else, gg. <3 Was fun playing with the lot of you again. I'm happy that you're putting up more of a fight against me when I try to take the lead of town, but man is it frustrating when I actually think I'm right about something. Dota had a good game this game though, and he did well in the leadership role this game, I think.
by LOLingHyena
Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:06 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

/vote Jalandh

Hammer time!
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:49 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

If Cheeze moves to Jal, I'm going to hammer. :P I don't feel like randing again.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:48 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

Alright, it's been 10 minutes.

/vote Kosmo
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:36 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

CheezePie wrote:all right...
where's everyone lol

I'm asking myself the same question, lol.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:27 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

CheezePie wrote:
Fenraiser wrote:jalandh[triplehaven] | 3 | dota, thedebil, kosmo;
kosmo | 2 | zorua[3cheers], jalandh[triplehaven];
lolinghyena | 1 | bottlenose

Not Voting (3): cob709, LOLinghyena, cheezepie

Day ends 2020-08-10T14:00:00,
2020-08-10T14:00:00

this is the last VC, i think
i just voted kosmo
so we have 2 tied wagons yet again

I'll put her at L-1 in 10 minutes, I think. I don't want to wait too much longer than that though.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:24 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

CheezePie wrote:at some point kosmo voted jal too and put him at L-1
i don't know if this tells us anything

Kosmo was talking earlier about Jal being the obvious pick by the bookie N2, so I don't know why she would do that if she was seriously about it.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:23 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

Alright, I think I've talked myself into wanting to vote Kosmo again, lol. What are the vote counts, currently? How many votes does Kosmo have?
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:22 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

LOLingHyena wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:I feel like the only read that I had that's changed a lot is Bottle, who I now kinda think is town. I feel like I'm starting to see shades of the Bottle that I saw when I played town with them way back in VFM12. He's doing more solve-y stuff now. I'd be okay with swapping him out of the PoE and replacing him with Debil.

This would lead to my PoE being something like {Cob, Kosmo, Debil, Jalandh}, where {Dota, Cheeze, Bottle, Zorua} would be my updated towncore.

And now that I'm seeing this in front of me, I remember Jalandh was calling Bottle town, and if this is accurate, then that makes me not want to yeet him today. The only issue is that, again, Kosmo has just started calling Cob scum. The only reason why I'd see Kosmo doing this if they were both w/w is to give Cob a reason to survive the night in spite of me suspecting they are cop. That's tinfoil though.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:20 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

LOLingHyena wrote:I feel like the only read that I had that's changed a lot is Bottle, who I now kinda think is town. I feel like I'm starting to see shades of the Bottle that I saw when I played town with them way back in VFM12. He's doing more solve-y stuff now. I'd be okay with swapping him out of the PoE and replacing him with Debil.

This would lead to my PoE being something like {Cob, Kosmo, Debil, Jalandh}, where {Dota, Cheeze, Bottle, Zorua} would be my updated towncore.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:16 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

I feel like the only read that I had that's changed a lot is Bottle, who I now kinda think is town. I feel like I'm starting to see shades of the Bottle that I saw when I played town with them way back in VFM12. He's doing more solve-y stuff now. I'd be okay with swapping him out of the PoE and replacing him with Debil.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:15 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

CheezePie wrote:okay
what do you think about cob btw?

It's funny. The moment I suggested that Cob could be the cop who just hasn't claimed yet, Kosmo went from townreading Cob to scumreading Cob. I don't think Kosmo and Cob are both scum. Individually though, it's harder. I still believe Cob hasn't done much and seems very frozen, but he's remained that way even after people have drawn attention to it. I'm starting to think he wouldn't know how to be less frozen as either alignment. If he's somehow scum though, his flip doesn't do anything for us today though, even if Kosmo has had a lot of interactions with him. Thus, I don't want to yeet him today, I think.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:11 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

CheezePie wrote:hyena who would you vote?

Initially, I was going to vote Kosmo, and I still might do so, but now I'm leaning towards just sheeping people and going for Jal.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:02 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

dota2reporter wrote:jalandh/hyena/cob

Why did you decide to add Cob to a me+Jal team?
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:55 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

Bottlenose wrote:nah lynching dota is just dumb i think

I will not place a vote for Dota regardless of the consensus. Does that help your decision. :P
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:53 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

Hello, I'm here.
by LOLingHyena
Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:48 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

Bottlenose wrote:hyena, who has cop equity and who doesn't?

So, I was actually thinking about this earlier, and after seeing Cob post that voting him is a bad move, I remembered that he had posted that at least one other time before. Here are some of those instances:
Spoiler:
cob709 wrote:On D1, July 31st
Hellosither wrote:/vote cob709

this is a bad move
please unvote me

On D2, August 6th
cob709 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Bottlenose wrote:debil who do you think the wolfteam is?


let's go with kosmo/huachi/jal


alternate is ejji/hyena/cob

not me

D3, yesterday
cob709 wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:That's a placeholder.

/vote cob

this is a bad move, please reconsider

Cob hasn't claimed not-cop, and I think he's new enough to be unaware that claiming here would be helpful.

TheDebil wrote:
CheezePie wrote:damnit
ok uhhhhh
what do you think of hyena and kosmo?
are you the pr cop?

both bad
maybe

If you think Kosmo is bad, why do you care about the people on her wagon? You stated that the people on Jalandh's wagon looked better earlier when you moved you vote from Kosmo to Jal. :P
by LOLingHyena
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:23 pm
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

CheezePie wrote:i got the feeling hyena was focusing a lot on bottle

This is correct.
CheezePie wrote:and his interactions with kosmo seem... fake? i dont know how else to describe this

This isn't the case, but this is reasonable as I think it's well within our scumrange. I feel like both Kosmo and I would have a good time pretending to argue with each other to make it look like we weren't together. I am genuinely getting tilted though by a lot of what Kosmo has been saying about me, lol. I will relent that if she is somehow town, she's only doing this because she's paranoid that I'm scum and she doesn't want me to lead the game. However, I still feel a lot of her posts to me are designed specifically to troll me. Like, the reads she is making this game are not the kind of reads I see her make when she's town. Her reads as town are still wild and tinfoily, but they're not bad. At least not as bad as the ones she's making this game. Also, if she was town, she probably would've correctly called and helped flip someone that was actually mafia. Instead, she had been calling Huachi and Ejji mafia for reasons I just don't understand.
CheezePie wrote:kosmo didnt do much D1 other than sheeping the ejji vote and accusing huachi

Correct
CheezePie wrote:D2, hyena poked her to give some reads, which were pretty meh

I don't think this is the only thing I did. I feel like I did call her scum a couple times.

CheezePie wrote:overall it feels like he's been kinda nitpicky, maybe pocketing townies and throwing doubt around

So, I'll admit that the last couple of times I've been scum, I have been called out for being too nitpicky, but I really don't feel like I've been nitpicky at all this game. Nor have I gone out of my way to pocket anyone, when I usually do as either alignment. Nor have I really casted any doubt -- in fact, I've been pretty straightforward with my reads and only argued with people who disagreed with them.

CheezePie wrote:and iirc he's been sorta fencesitty with kosmo, including her in PoEs and such, but never really starting a vote against her
also i do wonder why he suddenly decided to start questioning me- sorry, i meant the process :P.

No. I haven't been fencesitty with Kosmo. I've been calling her scum since D2. I don't remember if I did ever place a vote against her, so that could be true.
by LOLingHyena
Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:02 pm
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

kosmo16 wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:I shouldn't be surprised at this point that you went with the option that would troll and/or tilt me the most. :roll:

sigh.gif

Okay, Kosmo. Tell me why you would pick no one. Tell me why this makes sense and why this isn't some ploy, like calling Cob innocent and encouraging him to continue posting the way he had been posting, just to try to provoke me and make my blood boil.

See, this is another reason why I think you're scum. You haven't really done anything to really solve me. Every action you've taken against me or that's involved me feels more like an attempt to get under my skin. And I know this would be in your scumrange. You're not that different of a player than me, lol.


Less people and can be not aware that they are on lylo. Imagine I'm bookie who picked Jal last night and you guys are recklessly voting.

I haven't voted anyone yet today. Why are you talking to me about recklessly voting people when I haven't even placed a vote yet? If you think Jal was selected by the bookie last night, shouldn't you want to talk to the people voting Jal instead of me?
by LOLingHyena
Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:43 pm
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

Bottlenose wrote:because i don't see who else would kill ejji here

Okay, but what makes you go "Hyena (or Debil) would kill Ejji N2 with how things are going in the game"?

Bottlenose wrote:i'd expect hyena to have some sort of reaction to ejji dying too

She flipped the same alignment that I had been calling her. Why would I have a reaction? Why didn't the people who were calling her scum have a reaction? Why are their reads remaining so static? I'm not the one that's been wrong. I was calling Huachi and Ejji town pretty much all game.

Bottlenose wrote:jal can't be wolf with zorua and hyena i think still

im tinfoiling jal/debil possibilities atm

would leave kosmo cob cheeze

Talk to me about Debil. I have him in my towncore at the moment, but he's the lowest ranked person in there at the moment.

Bottlenose wrote:but who is a wolf with hyena?

im tinfoiling zorua/hyena

Nobody is wolf with me, because I'm town. This is the second day in a row where people are making arguments that someone is scum based on them "being a wolf with hyena". D2 it was Ejji, and she flipped town.

Bottlenose wrote:either cophunting or just a threat? i just don't see many people besides you and hyena to come up with this idea. maybe zorua

the super obvious play is to kill dota

Killing Dota was the super obvious play for N1, too, from my perspective. Why would mafia want to kill him N2, but not N1?

Bottlenose wrote:it forces wolves hand to claim or not if ejji was a cop. now or never. every bit of information helps here, one clear could make or break the game here. i myself am kind of stuck. also i think a mechanical clear will die here regardless unless lolwolves

I feel like Ejji was the main person keeping me alive D2 and D1. I'd want her to be around today as either alignment if only so that I have one more person that would not vote for me, let alone someone that kinda agrees with how I'm seeing the game.
by LOLingHyena
Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:40 pm
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

Bottlenose wrote:it's not that her play indicated she was cop rather there's a lot of people who can't be the cop

Why can't Huachi or Uzay be cop?
by LOLingHyena
Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:22 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

So, here's the deal. I'm just going to trust my gut here. Unless I find some strong evidence against it (and yes, I will seriously be looking, so don't start slanking if I include you here), I'm going to call {Dota, Debil, Cheeze, and Zorua} all town, and the rest, {Jalandh, Cob, Bottle, Kosmo}, PoE. This isn't even about me finding anyone scummy anymore. I just find the first four towny, especially Dota, Cheeze, and Zorua.
by LOLingHyena
Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:21 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

Jalandh wrote:this also doesnt take into account that mafia would have a chat to call others in and they could have been lurking without posting

I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me here. o:

Bottlenose wrote:k i guess ejji was cop

heavily implies debil and/or hyena?

No. Why would I think Ejji was cop D2 but not D1? There was no huge chance in her gameplay that would indicate that she was cop specifically on D2 and not D1.
by LOLingHyena
Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:16 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

kosmo16 wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:All people spoke so let me say sth. Do you know what would be my answer for question I asked to Hyena? Who would I pick as bookie?

Just say it. :P Stop playing games. One of three things will happen. 1. I'll agree with you, 2. I'll disagree with you, and 3. I won't care about your answer and simply ignore it.


No one.

I shouldn't be surprised at this point that you went with the option that would troll and/or tilt me the most. :roll:

sigh.gif

Okay, Kosmo. Tell me why you would pick no one. Tell me why this makes sense and why this isn't some ploy, like calling Cob innocent and encouraging him to continue posting the way he had been posting, just to try to provoke me and make my blood boil.

See, this is another reason why I think you're scum. You haven't really done anything to really solve me. Every action you've taken against me or that's involved me feels more like an attempt to get under my skin. And I know this would be in your scumrange. You're not that different of a player than me, lol.
by LOLingHyena
Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:10 am
 
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Re: VFM71 | Light Game - Moonshine Guidance | Day 3

dota2reporter wrote:Cheeze is obviously town from the posts you quoted imo @Hyena
I don't think it's necessary to push him right now. Better targets exist

Don't interfere with the process. :P

Jalandh wrote:I mean hyena wasnt calling him out as scum from what ive read, hes just curious how hes getting some of these interactions

This defense of me is giving me similar vibes to that hydra game we played where you absolutely fooled me and Eragon. :P

Jalandh wrote:my never lynch pool
bottlenose
jalandh
dota2reporter

my preferred lynches today
TheDebil
Cheezepie
LOLinghyena
kosmo

none of this is in order mind you

/vote kosmo

Meh. I don't think you and Bottle are as cleared as you think. Debil's placement is spicy though. I might join you on Kosmo if I don't hop on you or Bottle.
by LOLingHyena
Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:21 pm
 
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