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ZoruaLuhansk wrote:

kosmo16 wrote:The thing is that no one really see me as scum as well.

that's blatantly not true

kosmo16 wrote:

Jalandh wrote:

TheDebil wrote:

dota2reporter wrote:I'm strongarming a Jalandh lynch. We are not lynching anyone else today, except maybe kosmo.

both are fine

*checks vote*
*vote is on kosmo*

Ok so we agree on kosmo atleast

/vote Jalandh
(;

TheDebil wrote:

dota2reporter wrote:I'm strongarming a Jalandh lynch. We are not lynching anyone else today, except maybe kosmo.

both are fine

cob709 wrote:

CheezePie wrote:funny how both of the people who were thinking about kosmo being scum were nightkills

perhaps kosmo is killing off competition, thats a possibility
but what if it was actually the mafia killing kosmo's competition off to frame him?? that's exactly what the mafia would want you to think!!!

LOLingHyena wrote:I'm going to engage in some tinfoil -- don't take any accusations here seriously yet.

Fenraiser wrote:uzay | 3 | 3cheers, bottle, hellosither;
triple | 3 | ejjinami, dota2reporter, thedebil;
bottle | 3 | triple, hyena, cheeze;
huachimingo | 1 | kosmo

Not Voting (3): cob709, huachimingo, uzayaltay

Day ends:

Here are the D1 EoD vote totals again: three-way tie between Uzay, Triple, and Bottle. Jalandh made the argument that the wagons were v/v/v based on no one trying to make an attempt to save any of the three and avoid a tie. It's that, or the entire mafia were afk, he suggested. Let's actually look at that latter proposition.

First, let's take a look at who was afk at EoD1.
1. TripleHaven -- her last post was made 4:28pm EST, Aug 1st (16 and a half hours before EoD according to Uzay in his next post). Triple would soon replace out at the beginning of D2.
2. 3cheers -- her last post was earlier than Triple's even -- 7:10am EST, Aug 1st, more than a full day before EoD. 3cheers would replace out at the beginning of D2, too.
3. Cob -- their last post was at 2:58am EST, Aug 2nd, about 7 hours before EoD. In that last post, they were complaining about how early EoD was was for them (7am their time, which means they're west coast US).
4. Huachi -- their last post was at 5:21am EST, Aug 2nd, about 4.5 hours before EoD. In their last posts, they were trying to figure out where to place a vote. They never got around to doing it though.
5. Kosmo -- her last post was at around 8:30am EST, Aug 2nd, about 1.5 hours before EoD. Her first post on D2 states that she wasn't around at EoD.
6. Uzay -- his last post was 6:45pm on Aug 1st.
7. Bottlenose -- last post was at 8:41am, Aug 2nd, 20 minutes before EoD. "Guess I'll die. No time sorry."
8. Flake??? -- last post was at 8:20am, Aug 2nd, 40 minutes before EoD. "Hi." I'm not sure if this is a true AFK, because he didn't say much else after the hi. I'm going to treat him as an AFK though in this scenario.

That leaves {Ejji, Dota, Hyena, Debil, Cheeze} as the possible moving pieces in the puzzle. Everyone else wasn't moving in that last 10 or so minutes.

At EoD, Triple was AFK. If Triple has scum, there was no way she'd be able to self pres, because she simply wasn't around. Also, if Cheeze or I were ever scum partners with Triple, either of us could have saved her by simply moving to another wagon. We were both active at EoD. If Kosmo, 3cheers, or Cob is scum with Triple/Jal, they couldn't have saved Triple due to being AFK. If Bottle is scum with her/Jal, Bottle was already on town and couldn't do more.

At EoD, Bottle was AFK. Bottle was AFK, too, and already voting for flipped town Uzay. If Bottle is scum, Dota and Debil could have saved Bottle from a tie by moving to Uzay. Thus, it doesn't make sense that they would be scum with Bottle. If Kosmo, Triple, 3cheers, or Cob are scum with Triple/Jal, they couldn't have saved Triple due to being AFK.

Jalandh wrote:

Bottlenose wrote:d1 vc is really interesting

not voting there are huachi cob and uzay who are all prob town

d2 is kinda messy

wait if you think huachi is town, then whats your scumpool consisting of?

Bottlenose wrote:d1 vc is really interesting

not voting there are huachi cob and uzay who are all prob town

d2 is kinda messy

dota2reporter wrote:Cheeze is obviously town from the posts you quoted imo @Hyena
I don't think it's necessary to push him right now. Better targets exist

CheezePie wrote:keep in mind I literally woke up, skimmed through everything in 2 minutes, and voted like 4(?) minutes before EoD
we had 3 wagons tied again. i wasnt keen on rng happening really, so i voted huachi who i thought was more likely to be mafia than you
ejji tied up the wagons again with their vote, which is, well, what i didnt want lol (i was half-joking in that post anyway)
and then that happened.

about my "conclusion": wasnt really based on the votes, i was too tired to make sense of those
maybe shouldn't have thrown it out like that, cuz it was based on my PoE assuming some people were town during mid-D2

my vote on jalandh? i suppose it's me returning to my D2 doubts about them. and also being a bit of a sheep. bah.
it's not like ive been right about much so far anyway; still have shit to learn and i shouldnt be running around like this on my first time

this is a response to hyena's questions. i cba quoting right now. thanks.

Jalandh wrote:

Fenraiser wrote:Jalandh, TripleHaven | 3 | Cheezepie, Dota2reporter, thedebil;
bottlenose | 3 | LOLinghyena, Zorualuhansk 3cheers, ejjinami;
Ejjinami | 1 | bottlenose;
LOLinghyena | 1 | kosmo16

Not Voting (3): Jalandhh TripleHaven, huachimingo, cob709

Day ends

......why are the wagons once again tied on the two people that survived it being tied yesterday

why does noone care that its tied between us again

is noone else seeing a patternlmao

dota2reporter wrote:

Jalandh wrote:

dota2reporter wrote:as it stands, bottle is town in my books now
if he is scum then where have his buddies been at eod? hes been a potential wagon for the entirety of d1
yet the 2 people that have any scum equity both voted him near eod (though ejji switched later)

this post is still getting me. Until he explains the difference between bottle being towna nd me being mafia from this, hes gonna get

/vote dota

im a martyr get wrecked

dota2reporter wrote:as it stands, bottle is town in my books now
if he is scum then where have his buddies been at eod? hes been a potential wagon for the entirety of d1
yet the 2 people that have any scum equity both voted him near eod (though ejji switched later)

Fenraiser wrote:Jalandh, TripleHaven | 3 | Cheezepie, Dota2reporter, thedebil;
bottlenose | 3 | LOLinghyena, Zorualuhansk 3cheers, ejjinami;
Ejjinami | 1 | bottlenose;
LOLinghyena | 1 | kosmo16

Not Voting (3): Jalandhh TripleHaven, huachimingo, cob709

Day ends

dota2reporter wrote:

kosmo16 wrote:

dota2reporter wrote:

CheezePie wrote:lol imagine joining the game just to get lynched
so yeah, all the reasons we didn't like triple still apply to my vote
jalandh's first post is actually what made me look into them

Jalandh wrote:Ayo, i havent read a single page yet so anyone who can give me a detailed catch up, id appriciate it. Its 2 am so ill reread fully in the morning. i see that dota is a claimed martyr, why is he claimed?

gonna do an iso on triple is one is made already to see where their mind was at in the game

this might be a stretch but i was thinking that the bolded part could mean "lol im scum lets see what s!triple was trying to do so i can continue"

exactly my thoughts, but in reverse. why would you as town need to know what the previous person said/did? it's a completely different person with different opinions. for mafia, on the other hand, it may be important to keep consistency on the slot and make everyone comfortable with your presence by using somebody else's posts

It's not true. When you replace in you want to know if your slot is doomed and you need to read the thread or you can just chill.

Jalandh is trolling, that's true. The real question is: bad or scum?

i never see people replacing in town slots doing this
theyre either already prepared or ask others to catch them up, but dont read the person before them

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:/vote Bottlenose

Dota should stop tunneling tbh, Jalandh is vibing (light light V), and I predicted their response to dota's post (although idk if that's indicative)
gtg now byeeeeee

kosmo16 wrote:

dota2reporter wrote:

CheezePie wrote:lol imagine joining the game just to get lynched
so yeah, all the reasons we didn't like triple still apply to my vote
jalandh's first post is actually what made me look into them

Jalandh wrote:Ayo, i havent read a single page yet so anyone who can give me a detailed catch up, id appriciate it. Its 2 am so ill reread fully in the morning. i see that dota is a claimed martyr, why is he claimed?

gonna do an iso on triple is one is made already to see where their mind was at in the game

this might be a stretch but i was thinking that the bolded part could mean "lol im scum lets see what s!triple was trying to do so i can continue"

exactly my thoughts, but in reverse. why would you as town need to know what the previous person said/did? it's a completely different person with different opinions. for mafia, on the other hand, it may be important to keep consistency on the slot and make everyone comfortable with your presence by using somebody else's posts

It's not true. When you replace in you want to know if your slot is doomed and you need to read the thread or you can just chill.

Jalandh is trolling, that's true. The real question is: bad or scum?

CheezePie wrote:hey, if jalandh is scum, that means we had 2 villa wagons and 1 scum wagon
triple/jalandh only really became a wagon during EoD
and the uzay wagon stayed pretty much the same, plus a vote from bottle, who i consider townie now
so you could say... me or hyena could be scum, letting it go to rng and possibly save triple/jalandh? (i dont exactly remember the votes)
oh no, lol

dota2reporter wrote:

Bottlenose wrote:

CheezePie wrote:

Bottlenose wrote:jal is town pls

i don't think they're ever a wolf with hyena

quick explain?

i feel hyena was too lax at EoD1 for them to be w/w

i think they would try to strongarm a lynch onto me.

67% chance of missing is more safe than having to strongarm and get screwed up by interactions
you really underestimate how much flip paranoia can affect scum

LOLingHyena wrote:

TheDebil wrote:

LOLingHyena wrote:

Jalandh wrote:Ayo, i havent read a single page yet so anyone who can give me a detailed catch up, id appriciate it. Its 2 am so ill reread fully in the morning. i see that dota is a claimed martyr, why is he claimed?

gonna do an iso on triple is one is made already to see where their mind was at in the game

Okay, I don't want to yeet Triple's slot today anymore.

Hi, Jalandh. <3 Welcome back!

why

Because it's Jalandh, and I haven't seen him in a while. It was only a half-serious post, mind you.

dota2reporter wrote:as it stands, bottle is town in my books now
if he is scum then where have his buddies been at eod? hes been a potential wagon for the entirety of d1
yet the 2 people that have any scum equity both voted him near eod (though ejji switched later)

dota2reporter wrote:

Jalandh wrote:

dota2reporter wrote:

CheezePie wrote:lol imagine joining the game just to get lynched
so yeah, all the reasons we didn't like triple still apply to my vote
jalandh's first post is actually what made me look into them

Jalandh wrote:Ayo, i havent read a single page yet so anyone who can give me a detailed catch up, id appriciate it. Its 2 am so ill reread fully in the morning. i see that dota is a claimed martyr, why is he claimed?

gonna do an iso on triple is one is made already to see where their mind was at in the game

this might be a stretch but i was thinking that the bolded part could mean "lol im scum lets see what s!triple was trying to do so i can continue"

exactly my thoughts, but in reverse. why would you as town need to know what the previous person said/did? it's a completely different person with different opinions. for mafia, on the other hand, it may be important to keep consistency on the slot and make everyone comfortable with your presence by using somebody else's posts

On mobile so posting hard but its because triple was the only town person i knew just by joining the game and looking at my rc. Ik im the 'easy lynch' ince i had alot of pressure on me yesterday but this is grasping at straws, esspecally when youre giving bottle the pass for also being tied

very very lamist my friend, doesnt make your case any better

im giving bottle a pass for completely different reasons; tying doesnt influence it

dota2reporter wrote:

CheezePie wrote:lol imagine joining the game just to get lynched
so yeah, all the reasons we didn't like triple still apply to my vote
jalandh's first post is actually what made me look into them

Jalandh wrote:Ayo, i havent read a single page yet so anyone who can give me a detailed catch up, id appriciate it. Its 2 am so ill reread fully in the morning. i see that dota is a claimed martyr, why is he claimed?

gonna do an iso on triple is one is made already to see where their mind was at in the game

this might be a stretch but i was thinking that the bolded part could mean "lol im scum lets see what s!triple was trying to do so i can continue"

exactly my thoughts, but in reverse. why would you as town need to know what the previous person said/did? it's a completely different person with different opinions. for mafia, on the other hand, it may be important to keep consistency on the slot and make everyone comfortable with your presence by using somebody else's posts

LOLingHyena wrote:

Jalandh wrote:

LOLingHyena wrote:There's some real dissonance between what a lot of you guys are saying and what's going on my head. Ejji's the only one who's making any sort of sense to me right now as far as her reads go. I don't know how any of the rest of you are coming to the conclusion that you are coming to.

well uzay flipped town and i know that im also town. That leaves Bottle as the third person in the pool that was tied. idk what the eod was like but uh, if there was more then 1 or 2 people around at any point, id be very concerned why maf!bottle was left to hang like that while it makes sense why maf was ok with the threeway tie with all Vs

Okay, let's go with the assumption that you and Bottle are in fact town.
[Me, Ejji, Dota, Cheeze, you, and Bottle] make six, and that's out of the 11 people that are alive right now. That gives us auto assuming we're all town and that we don't yeet the person the bookie has selected.

That leaves [Debil, Zorua, Huachi, Kosmo, Cob]. I believe Kosmo and Cob are two of the mafia in that group, but I feel like I've been getting resistance against that. Explain to me how they are town over the other three.