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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

@Var

There are no forced replacements for receiving multiple prod in NFM, correct?
by Bodhrak
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:45 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Chemist1422 wrote:No

The only thing you should care about is lynching mafia

Disagreed.
If I knew who was scum then I'd go for the lynch. But right now I can only guess.
I'd like to avoid a scenario where the only town left is a few "noobs" facing off against experienced mafia players.

With all these new players I can not tell if they are being barely active because they want to avoid making mistakes (that would reveal them as scum) or because they just don't really care or have no time.
I can't tell if they're sheeping because they are being told to do so by a scumbuddy or because they just don't know any better.
The only thing I can tell is they are not actively defending each other, which makes me believe that
{righto, Joeshe} only contains one scum at most with {flint} possibly being another.

Righto has failed to scumread Juvenile which could make them scumbuddies.
Currently I'd go with righto as PL.
by Bodhrak
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:05 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Tiltedcomedian wrote:99% of the time you will not be able to read someone because you don't know them well enough, and then you get rekt because you don't think like the other person does so you don't approach being townie in the same way

this was a huge issue between me and Koolkid in SFM 51

so don't think about surface speech, think about what's motivating them to say or do something in particular and use that to judge

Thanks for nothing.

You see the problem is:
This is a NFM, half the players don't know the game, let alone each other, so pushing your "gut reading town" meta on the offchance that players catch your cues here only makes you scum and nothing else.
So you either play along and give us some logic or can die.
by Bodhrak
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:45 am
 
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Tiltedcomedian wrote:
the hell kind of plan is that

don't announce or even suggest who TPro is or isn't on

mafia already have an information advantage, give them something to puzzle over right back

100% agreed here, for a change.
by Bodhrak
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:40 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Kears123 wrote:Night results:

Flint9 -
rightodude -
Bodhrak -
Joeshe -
JuvenileFourtyTwo -
Kears123 - SP
0verki11 - SP
MoustachioMario - Knows no one visited him last night
Chemist1422 - rbed
TiltedComedian -
Eragon1329 - SP

5/11 claimed night results

I said SP in my first post D2.
by Bodhrak
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:36 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Chemist1422 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't think PLing is the best idea, and it could probably come from scum!Bodhrak

Who do you want to lynch rn?

My vote sits on Tilted and it will stay there for the next hours - where I'll be sleeping.

Do you think my flip would give you any info?

Why do you care about info? I don't think this is a towny defense, as town would find genuine reasons that they're town.

Info is imho the only thing you should care about. Ever.
Look at D1 and tell me what phone's lynch gave us.

I am convinced not going for a PL puts town at a severe disadvantage.

And you not seeing that makes me believe you are scum posting from a point where you feel really save through your roleblock claim.
Maybe you are a consig and already found the TI to be shut down tonight leaving us with no way to prove your claim.
If you are scum going for me as one of the most active town is the obvious move.
by Bodhrak
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:35 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Chemist1422 wrote:I don't think PLing is the best idea, and it could probably come from scum!Bodhrak

Who do you want to lynch rn?

My vote sits on Tilted and it will stay there for the next hours - where I'll be sleeping.

Do you think my flip would give you any info?
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:59 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Kears123 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:I'm not even sure if everyone has posted their night results?
But it pretty much should be SP across the board.

I guess now we wait for flint or their replacement.
Then go with a PL.


I think everyone should be good, Chemist is the only one who said he was roleblocked. I can check for night results too. brb

Who would you want to PL and what makes you think they could be a PL?

One of the new players. Joeshe or righto.
They are barely contributing and if they do, they prefer to follow wagons or being lead by others and that is really bad lategame.

I still scumread Juve, but lynching him now doesn't give us a lot of info.
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:36 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

I'm not even sure if everyone has posted their night results?
But it pretty much should be SP across the board.

I guess now we wait for flint or their replacement.
Then go with a PL.
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:08 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Kears123 wrote:Bod, I'm curious, you said this was your first game but you're acting like an experienced player, are you an alt, or are you just going off ToS (If you play it)?

This is definitely not an alt and it is my first game that I'm playing in.
I have like 650 games of ToS played with maybe half being Ranked.
I have read like 3 threads here before as well as looked through modifiers and terminology on mafiascum wiki.
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:43 pm
 
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Tiltedcomedian wrote:dw you'll get used to it

trying to logic me will only give you a headache

Oh, you're also Mario now?
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:06 pm
 
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JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:No, I missread, I just need to go through iso's quickly and go based off of that.

Weak excuses once more.
You're still my top scumread.

I just wanted some clarity from Tilted.
But now they're inactive.
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:03 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

For know I'm gonna vote Tilted.
His ISO contains mostly memeing.
He was voting Mario (who always seems like an easy lynch) and was scumreading phone (but left his vote on mario).
And now he's pushing on me without any explanation.

/vote Tiltedcomedian

Still waiting for feedback from flint - prod is due soon?
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:56 am
 
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Bodhrak wrote:We aren't going to defend Juve, he has to do that on his.

*own

Eragon1329 wrote:Joeshe never mentioned righto once at the time you said they were friendly.
If you are saying they have the same opinion becuase they both voted Ph0ne, then does that mean all 7 voters, including yoursef, are “friendly?”

That's probably what he was implying.
Pretty weak to me.
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:38 am
 
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Joeshe wrote:Hello and good evening,
Sorry I haven't been posting, like I've mentioned before, I have school and work outside in my real life which keep me busy. I'm going to say, I am definitely busy from 7 am EST to 1 pm EST one the weekdays and possibly busy from 1:30 pm EST to 9:30 pm EST if I am working that day.

Now my response to Juve, can you give me an example of me being friendly with Right? I dont post that much so I dont really remember what I do post. Other than that, I'm not going to defend Right, just in case he scum. Nor will I scum read him since all I have been doing so far is skimming through the forum. Tbh from what I have read, Juve has felt a bit scummy as he keeps pointing the attention to others yet hasn't given a solid defense as to why he isn't scum. I want to vote Juve but I will wait for the more experienced players to give some solid reads as well as Juve's defense.

IF YOU STRONGLY FEEL LIKE JUVE IS SKUM. TRY YOUR BEST TO CONVINCE MY VOTE. IF NOT TRY TO DEFEND HIM.

Like I mentioned, before this is my first game so sorry for the sheep vote. I'll be more cautious when voting.

(For reference: You can look up your posts in your ISO.)
We aren't going to defend Juve, he has to do that on his.

The lack of support from his supposed scumbuddies means one of these three things to me.
1. He is being bussed as a weak member to gain towncred.
2. His scumbuddies aren't active. This would lead to possibly flint also being scum. But who else?
3. He's actually town and just backed into a corner and too much of a noob to come up with a decent defense.
by Bodhrak
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:34 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Also getting some sleep now.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:06 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:I wasn't kidding. I have no clue who is what.
I guess that joeshe and rightodude have been pretty friendly with each other whenever they interact with each other and they could be scumbuddies? That's the most I have to give. I'm pretty bad at reads.

That's something (not something I would have given attention, but something).

If you don't want to be lynched you have to give us more: An alternative.
Maybe you think some players are actively avoiding the thread.
Maybe you think someone is actively targeting you as you are an easy target.
Or you can look at the ISOs (first page, second post) of individual players and look for odd behavior changes or pauses or votes out of nowhere - indicating someone might be in the mafia chat and get pointers from his scumbuddies or being an opportunist.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:05 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:I mean, what else can I say other than my role.

Give us your reads, so we have something to go on.

Also don't worry, we won't be lynching until everyone has checked in.
Well I won't.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:42 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Chemist1422 wrote:Bodhrak's progression onto phone felt weird to me. He shaded the votes then proceeded to vote him?

There was already several pages as I jumped in, so I posted as I read.
In hindsight I thought the phone - mario case was townies memeing (which it btw. turned out to be) and I pointed that out.

When I voted phone he was my best scumread - as far as D1 scumreading goes.

I also definitely didn't expect phone to get hammered - when I voted there where only 2 other votes on him. I would have unvoted at L-2 had I been there in favor of a claim and more discussion time.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:32 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

rightodude wrote:Sorry but I was asleep when you sent that. what do you mean by reads? I'm a complete noob lmao

Reads as in
Who do you think is town and why?
Who do you think is mafia and why?
Do you think there are scenarios where if player X turns out to be town/not town then other player Y is more likely to be town/non town?

This is kind of the point of the game - finding out other players alignment through discussion. Eventually evil players will make an error or they force themself into a scenario where there are have to defend their teammates or lynch them.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:16 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

MoustachioMario wrote:I claim citizen

Good job.

Are prods in order? Joeshe? flint?
Still shenanigans with Mods?

rightodude are you here? can you share some reads?
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:51 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Bodhrak wrote:
rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:we might as well get a rolecall maybe?

DO NOT CLAIM YET THOUGH

so you want us to call out our roles?

Don't claim.
We only have a TI and a TP left.
The TI should only claim if they have good info.
The TP definitely shouldn't claim. They will simply get nightkilled.

And obviously citizen claims will reduce the space for these roles, making it easier for maf to target the PR roles "by accident", so don't claim that either.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:28 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:we might as well get a rolecall maybe?

DO NOT CLAIM YET THOUGH

so you want us to call out our roles?

Don't claim.
We only have a TI and a TP left.
The TI should only claim if they have good info.
The TP definitely shouldn't claim. They will simply get nightkilled.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:23 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

MoustachioMario wrote:How would chemist get roleblocked if there is NO RANDOM TOWN LEFT?

And the escort got lynched D1

Fakeclaiming. As in he's claiming something that isn't true.

It's a risky move and I don't really think Chemist would do that, as it can be disproven by a LO on him or ruled out lategame when it's proven that scum has no consort.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:01 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Chemist1422 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:So, that happened.

I already had a feeling Mario was town, though being as scummy as usual.

Do we have a TI btw or was Chemist kinda softing he is?
Don't reveal if it was useless (like you invested Debil or smth).

delet this

Look, if I get it, probably everyone did.
I'm still piecing together the basics of FM.
by Bodhrak
Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:45 am
 
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