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EvilDeanius0 wrote:Idk if the plan can be accepted like that, they usually have to be pretty specific. But I'll agree to it if Leyva does, he's the citizen claim I trust the most.

If it's not accepted just vote Jammy and have sturps forfeit if he flips GF.

It's pretty specific.
Like kill a person, no town visits anyone, then kill another person.
That accounts for literally every single night action except for the Detonators, which of course the Detonator can't do anything if no one visits tonight.
And even then that's ignoring the fact that there is 3 Citizens who can't visit anyways.

You know I would say the Protectives did something but really the only reason more people aren't dead was because Sturps convinced the Mafia he was a Bodyguard and they attacked him twice. But of course we wasted it because we no lynched 2 times.

Oh and plan is L-1.

teamalex wrote:Hip is suggesting a plan which upon failing would create a kingmaker situation and most likely give Sturps the win. At least I would vote with him, I don't know about you guys. This increases my trust against him.

/vote plan

I think plans are allowed but if they aren't Met should just endgame anyways.

We would have lost reguardless of we mislynced on any of the past 3 days. Mislynch ing now would still result in a Town loss.
But yes I do prefer Sterps win over Mafia if we are forced to lose.

Plan: D9 - Lynch Jammy.
N9 - No one visit at all.
D10 - Lynch Sturps. Or if Jammy was not Godfather stop here and reassess.
N10 - Whatever just don't blow people up.

/vote Plan

leyva45 wrote:I claimed jammy's role?

Same. The Jammy role is best role.

EvilDeanius0 wrote:

Hiphoplog wrote:Well first I think you are comparing the wrong people as if anything I would be a Godfather suspect and Dota would be a Framer suspect.
Seeing as me, Jammy, and Team are the Godfather suspects whereas only Team or Dota can be a Framer the real question should be is Dota or Team more likely to be Framer.

Why can Team only be a framer? He could still be GF

I don't know. How can you fail to read stuff you quoted?

Elastoid wrote:

Hiphoplog wrote:

Elastoid wrote:I just want to hear from teamalex and hip first.

Why exactly do you need to hear from me?

You vs Dota and who's most likely to be mafia.

Well first I think you are comparing the wrong people as if anything I would be a Godfather suspect and Dota would be a Framer suspect.
Seeing as me, Jammy, and Team are the Godfather suspects whereas only Team or Dota can be a Framer the real question should be is Dota or Team more likely to be Framer.
There would be the chance that both of us be Mafia so you having people chose one or the other is kind of stupid, you should 1 comparing Dota and Team while comparing me, Team, and Jammy.

Aside from that if you want me to say why I'm not Mafia it's quite obvious as I did advocate largely against Ladd and KoE. Busing 2 Mafia is rather stupid of a strategy especially when ICE was later "confirmed" Town.

Elastoid wrote:I just want to hear from teamalex and hip first.

Why exactly do you need to hear from me?

OK I believe I have this worked out.
First the Mafia is using their Framer to cover the Detonator's tracks making it nearly impossible to find them as long as the Framer lives.
Dota is the Framer, so that should not be a problem anymore and he is being lynched today.
Why are they helping the Detonator? Because the Mafia can't win it's impossible for them to win at this point, Dota was found out be Evil and the Godfather can't win 1 on 1 against the Detonator.
Now then the Mafia accidently found the Detonator when they attacked them, so who did they attack? Based on the killing patterns the only player that this Mafia could have attacked was Sterps. Why Sterps? Because he was nearly confirmed Bodyguard and the Mafia has only gone after Protectives in the last 3 kills. Plus Sterps convenitly vested when he was attacked the first time.
So that's 2 scum found and pretty obvious. Lastly there is Team, so how is it clear that Team is the Godfather? Their defending of Dota and pushing to lynch Yau who they were confident was a real Doctor. AND on top of that Team was Framed, we know the Framer likes framing Mafia because of the N1 ICE visit.

There you have it, Dota the Framer, Sterps the Detonator, and Team the Godfather.
/vote Dota
Framer has to die first though.

teamalex wrote:Lynch Sturps today.

Dota and Jammy after that.

Just noticed Hip was on dota's wagon.

Yeah I was fairly confident Yau couldn't be scum.
Plus you and Dota are still looking like a pretty good Mafia team. Fairly obvious still, has been since you let ICE die.

/unvote
/vote Dota

It's a lot more likely to be Dota/Jammy than Team/yau I think.

teamalex wrote:Creature was replaced by Jammy.

There were other inactive players like me and Persian but you chose him. It would be nonsensical to bus that early.

Oh well I lost track of who is who, I really don't care much though as Ladd was my only real huge player I didn't like early on that quickly replaced out.

teamalex wrote:

Hiphoplog wrote:/vote Creature
He's the most inactive therefore he dies. We can rid the town of the inactivity problem by tomorrow morning I think.

This vote Day 2 is the second reason I don't see a Hip/Jammy team.

I fail to see the relevance.

EvilDeanius0 wrote:

Hiphoplog wrote:Team can only be Framer if there is a Caporegime.

Why?

The Mafia visits seam to suggest that he was a Caporegime retrained into a Framer if he is a Framer.
If not then he would be a Godfather being Framed if he is Mafia.
Though honestly Team looks the least likely person to be Mafia.

Team can only be Framer if there is a Caporegime.

Every heard of a spoiler bro?

Elastoid wrote:

Hiphoplog wrote:

Elastoid wrote:I want to hear from people about Hip.

If you've even bothered to read the last few pages most people have actually given their opinions on most or all of the suspects in the game.

In light of your scummy response.

Fair enough I suppose.

Elastoid wrote:I want to hear from people about Hip.

If you've even bothered to read the last few pages most people have actually given their opinions on most or all of the suspects in the game.

Well um, ignore that while I try and fix this.
But the point still stands.

Actually they can if we lynch a Mafia.
It doesn't have to be the Framer.
Which is kind of why I am wanting Jammy dead because I think he is the Godfather.

OK? But was ICE retrained into a Prankster? Because it's hard for ICE to Prank Cow and be retrained on the same night you know. It's kinda obvious ICE was framed night 1.

Making a defense is suspicious? Yeah OK, sure go ahead and think whatever you want Elastoid.

Elastoid wrote:

Hiphoplog wrote:

Elastoid wrote:Tu quoque isn't a valid defense, Hip. You acted scummy as fuck.

I'm saying that you have double standards.

I have no acted scummy though. Have you provided a single credible source of evidence? No, because the only evidence you provided I proved as wrong.

You didn't prove it as wrong. You said that someone else did something similar, which is NOT a defense for you.

Unlike Munch, YOU have not had a mafia visit you. So the comparison isn't even reasonable.

So yeah, let's take a moment to talk about your fakeclaim. What was your plan, exactly? To get confirmed as Sheriff, and then what?

Why is it not? You claimed he was Town for the same reason that I was scum. You were being pretty inconsistent with your reads.
Well not you actually posted a reason that he was visited, but what is that supposed to mean exactly? ICE was visited by Mafia, so Mafia have visited Mafia this game. You're not really proving a point with the Spy argument.

Lynch Mafia then get murdered that night, and if not murdered then just claim Citizen the next day.
You act like I haven't done this before when I know you were there last night when I did the exact same thing in that small voice game.

Elastoid wrote:Tu quoque isn't a valid defense, Hip. You acted scummy as fuck.

I'm saying that you have double standards.

I have no acted scummy though. Have you provided a single credible source of evidence? No, because the only evidence you provided I proved as wrong.

Munch said Cow was scum. He was wrong.

Elastoid wrote:

leyva45 wrote:team stop being bad, hip isn't scummy sorry.

Hip made a fakeclaim of Sheriff and said that Jammy was town and Arc was mafia.

Yeah he's scummy as fuck we just have to decide if he's scummy because he's bad or scummy because he's mafia.

Munch did the same thing and was also wrong.