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Today I was playing a normal Ranked Practice game, when suddenly, a player started spamming racist comments including the 'N' word. To bypass the filter, they were using 'Ğ' instead of 'G.' I already reported the player, so don't worry about that. But the problem is that using fancy characters can a...

@Orange andblack5 I guess the Pirate "talking thing" would be weird and overly complex; maybe restricting the role to Chaos modes only along with the other two nerfs would be good enough alone. However, I feel like we need to be harsh on all the new roles, or else BMG won't listen. It hon...

There's still two really big problems with the ELO system, though. 1: People could lose ELO based on luck. When you're playing as a role like Jester or Amnesiac, if you get killed on the first night, you will lose the game, and it's not your fault. The new ELO system, as far as I know, does nothing ...

We will be giving out Legacy Season rewards depending on your Elo bracket. Which brackets are going to be receiving rewards? I currently sit at a fairly low ELO of just over 1300, but I know for a fact that I can make it to 1400 by the end of the Legacy season, maybe even 1500. I just want to know ...

@Belshy Neutral Chaos I think that Neutral Chaos roles as a whole--not just Pirate--are a huge disaster when they're the Any. There's a reason that BMG made the Chaos game-modes: to make pro-Chaos players happy without adding any crazy roles into Ranked. BMG has made it very clear that they want to...

It looks like I made the same mistake again. I've corrected the statement to be specific to Ranked. Anyway, tell me what you think about the other post I made, please, and tell me if you disagree that BMG is dividing the To$ community. The fact that I disagree with you on the Coven update pretty muc...

@HereThereEverywhere I didn't say that the players were bad; I said that the roles were bad. Please, please, please, please, don't quote me on things I never said . I do not think that every player that disagrees with me is a bad one; here in the ToS community, we're all in the same boat. Every upd...

@HereThereEverywhere What they should've done is: they should've waited longer before implementing the update; I don't see the point in publishing an unfinished update. All of the roles I mentioned still suck, badly! I don't care what you say about the Pirate; me and pretty much every actually good...

Yeah, I guess my Guardian angel fix is flawed. But the GA needs either a fix, a complete rework, or it needs to be scrapped. It honestly pisses me off that BMG is presenting the Coven update as a finished product, when in reality, it isn't anywhere near finished. I feel like BMG is just straight up ...

@Kikigiri Yes, but in this scenario, it can't win with Mafia as a GA. I feel like it's unfair for a role to be able to cheat its own goals so easily. Once you are GA turned Survivor, winning is actually pretty easy if you publicly claim that you've become a Survivor. This is why I have a GA fix, whi...

Amnesiac I understand what you mean about the 'winning with everyone' situation, and I probably should've said 'anyone' instead of 'everyone.' A Benign role should be a role that can win with anyone, like the Survivor and the Amnesiac. I do understand, however, that the Amnesiac cannot side with th...

It seems as if this discussion has never really been about RNG itself, but about Ranked and competitive game-modes. I was not aware that my opponents in this argument were talking exclusively about Chaos; I thought that they were saying that the new roles were good for competitive game-play, but thi...

Fine, some opinions are wrong when facts directly oppose them. The Arsonist's winrate shows that it is not overpowered. What undeniable facts can you show me that say RNG is bad? @Belshy This right here is something that I can agree with, and it contradicts the previous quoted statement. Oh, and Be...

Now you're just straight-up lying. First of all, quit trying to change the topic! "Oh, but you didn't specify it was for Town of Salem!" Yes, yes I did! Well then, too bad! You want a game that's fun and interesting, eh? Then go and find a game that's fun and interesting! If you like luck-...

If Skill > Luck then a game is a skill game.
Town of Salem is a skill game...
Can you deny that ToS is a skill game? Because the entirety of ToS is built on skill. Also, can you please read the other part of my previous post?

Well then, too bad! You want a game that's fun and interesting, eh? Then go and find a game that's fun and interesting! If you like luck-based games, then you're more than welcome to go and play a luck-based game, but understand that Town of Salem isn't a luck-based game. If you think luck makes thi...

I will answer that question with yet another question! Do you think that skill should determine who wins in a game of Town of Salem? If your answer is yes: "Skill and luck are bound to intercept each other, and thus the two cannot coexist in harmony." Is this quote false? No, it isn't!...

Some people believe that the Arso is overpowered and the game needs a 'Firefighter' role to balance the game. Are they wrong?

It's luck as in you could be great at Mafia, but shit at Town. Therefore you're more likely going to be better off rolling as Mafia, which is just luck. Opinions are opinions, they can change. That in itself shows that not one is right. In my opinion, pink is the best color. Go ahead, prove that yo...

You can't win in an argument based on opinions. Also, the RNG with which roles are assigned is still luck-based, not skill based. I disagree. You indeed can win an argument based on opinions, as long as you have evidence to support your opinion. I've changed my mind on various things in ToS, as hav...

@JammySplodge Agreed. The RNG that decides which roles appear in the game actually adds skill to the game rather than luck, and thus it is a part of Town of Salem. Therefore, Town of Salem is a skill-based game, and it should remain that way. I wish that I could've wrapped up the entire argument li...

@Belshy Childish, you say? By calling my behavior childish, you are basically saying that pretty much every user on the ToS forums is childish. I do admit that I am much more aggressive than most users, but isn't the entire ToS forum built on the fact that people have different opinions? I've seen ...

Agreed. RNG cannot be controlled, and when a role uses RNG, the only way to fix it is to either scrap the role or to give it a complete rework; giving it a buff or nerf will just make it worse. What makes RNG such a problem is that it is both OP and UP at the same time; RNG concepts aren't tangible,...

@Belshy I wasn't expecting this. It seems that we have reached a fork in the road; at this point, neither one of us can convince the other of anything. You like chaos while I loathe it. I truly do despise people like you. I've had my fair share of heated arguments here in the forums, but I can't sa...

@HereThereEverywhere A Neutral Benign role is a role that can win with potentially anyone. The Guardian Angel, however, cannot win unless its target lives. I know that it's Benign to some extent since their target doesn't always have to win (their target could be an Executioner that never lynches th...