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Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

I think I know why I got buthurt yesterday. Your pointing out flaws in my thinking but their not really flaws because their straight up not what I'm saying. But thats less maliciousness and more me failing to get my point across. Anyways sorry, I'll keep trying to clairfy as needed. I'm trying to k...
by Metrion
Fri May 22, 2020 5:44 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
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Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

The main issue with the roll a 1 ability in combat and die is their is no reasonable way to exspect it and no resonable way to counter it in turn because of this. Not letting a random character ever near you or immediatly killing them is not something someone could naturely and logicaly do on their...
by Metrion
Fri May 22, 2020 5:30 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
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Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

I 100% agree that the forecast ability has counter play since you cant litteraly spam it enough to get nat 20's on demand and it takes high end gear to one shot. The roll a 1 ability and die while certainly balanced is not something anyone can know of, therefor it lacks counterplay. You need to be ...
by Metrion
Fri May 22, 2020 9:29 am
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
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Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

I'm sorry if you think I'm being rude. It's just the way I post. I treasure you as a player on this part of the forums. I'm not sure what we're arguing anymore because the ability only lets me forecast my attack, doesn't give me an inherit oneshot. The gun does, and you are fine with the gun. I'm al...
by Metrion
Fri May 22, 2020 12:14 am
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
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Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

LordofFail wrote:
Schultz128 wrote:Do note, the only 1-shot in this game was me, and it wasn't because of Met's ability.


met 1-shot me after i failed 4 consecutive actions to kill him


Wasn't exactly a surprise to you though.
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 11:06 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

I surprised him. Whether my ability caused it or just a regular roll it's exactly the same. There is no distinction between it in game, no difference between predicting one and the other. Your point is moot. The difference is that the sneak attack is something that can be predicted and you can do so...
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 11:06 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
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Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

The difference is simply, one is a fight and the other is a slaughter. No one enjoys being slaughtered, people can enjoy fights. On the knife, I simply don't like one shots and would not allow it unless you set it up by prehaps sneaking up on them since you could theoretically counter this by being...
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 10:36 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

None combat roles should be able to leverage their power to either make combat roles do what they want through manipulation or to set up senarios where their strengths shine is my opinion. I'm even fine with one shots as long as they contain counter play embedded within them. Your ability does not ...
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 10:06 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
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Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

I mean oneshots are in the game mechanically. So long as you can have a knife and perform a check to slit someone's throat, and I don't think it should be removed. It's an entirely different playstyle to brawling, and I'd say it is very gratifying to the person doing the killing. And the brawling ro...
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 9:44 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

I mean, the one time I insta-killed someone, there was another person in the room. That person I oneshot also betrayed me on his own gut. I think the role is definitely mean-spirited, and the betray hiding is definitely taking advantage of the metagame to a degree you could argue is OP. So if Nelly ...
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 9:27 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

TheNiceOne16 wrote:I assumed they really tried killing you. And it was self defense. Was I wrong?


I just straight up shot him in the back of the head when he sat down to do a part of the puzzle, and then waited until I could oneshot LoF in the ensuing fight.
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 8:49 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
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Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

Chubby taking it for a fact I didn't murder you both was kind of funny. I am honestly surprised I received literally no flack for killing my puzzle mates.
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 8:44 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

you didnt tell me what it did i thought it was a trap lol also why didnt schultz have his gun on him when he died? it made me sad not to get it bro why did you not trust me also we looted his gun off of him after you died, he had no bullets That was my gun you looted. I put it on his body without t...
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 8:39 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

Thank you for hosting, Nelly.

My role quote was fitting, no?
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 8:34 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

It's been real. Seeya never, Axel.
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 7:42 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

No, I didn't think about it.
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 7:37 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

We don't even know the doors do we?
by Metrion
Thu May 21, 2020 7:13 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

Wonder all you want. It's not going to change anything.
by Metrion
Wed May 20, 2020 11:06 am
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

*Aurum returns Soter's look that he had given her*

Yeah, Soter?
by Metrion
Wed May 20, 2020 10:31 am
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

Security.
by Metrion
Tue May 19, 2020 8:50 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

Fine.
by Metrion
Tue May 19, 2020 8:39 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

He tried to spray some on me but missed. I don't have a fucking degree so I don't know.

Fuuuck.
by Metrion
Tue May 19, 2020 8:30 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

Edward just had smoke bombs on them was all. Chemicals as well.
by Metrion
Tue May 19, 2020 8:22 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

Yeah with the smoke and the poison or whatever.
by Metrion
Tue May 19, 2020 8:17 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667

Re: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透

No, can you describe what happened again to you when you got jumped?
by Metrion
Tue May 19, 2020 8:15 pm
 
Forum: VLDR
Topic: Zero Escape: VLDR - 初/MEGA浸透
Replies: 925
Views: 31667
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