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[Phone0Ix]

Opinions on my plan?

[greenrabbit7]

All PR claims have a chance to be janitor who haven't been confirmed or killed, so

Apprentice/Green/Debil

One of those is janitor. One of our non confirmed cits is gf, our confirmed cits being:

Mario/Fifth

This is right correct?

[greenrabbit7]

Actually, we could lynch Para. They are doing nothing currently and if they flip scum, I'm confirmed. If they are town, Chemist can rb me while Chemist is watched AND rb'd. If App is LO, they can confirm Green, which would confirm Green. If mafia still killed, I'm also confirmed. If mafia didn't kill to frame me, I should be lynched because I'm sadly not confirmed in that way, however it could confirm many other players.

In the case Para flips scum, App and Green could do the same strat, while Chemist rb's Debil. It's a good plan I think.

Tbh it could work with me being lynched also but I'm more active than Para and I think the plan needs active ppl to work.

App, does this plan work for you? Also I changed my mind on App.

/vote unvote

Vice versa actually-- I think the way to confirm you is to lynch debil, as if we lynch debil you're ns. Yeah, possibility of gf, but still.

If app confirmed me, who would I protect? This would also mean I'd waste a night and not kill jan/gf.

I do disagree that para is inactive, but I think that's more that his replacement was inactive. He might be active.

[Phone0Ix]

All PR claims have a chance to be janitor who haven't been confirmed or killed, so

Apprentice/Green/Debil

One of those is janitor. One of our non confirmed cits is gf, our confirmed cits being:

Mario/Fifth

This is right correct?

However App is a bit unlikely and you and Debil might be Janitor and GF.

/vote Parallax

I think you are Godfather, Para, sorry if I'm wrong but it's unlikely in my opinion 2 mafias decided to claim PR, and we are the only 2 non-confirmed Citizens.

Btw, if I am quickhammered and I can't talk anymore because I'm going to bed now, this is the plan which should be followed!
Chemist rb's Para.
App watches Chemist.
Green protects Chemist.
Debil checks App/Green.
If mafia kills/cleans, Para is confirmed and 2 of the PR's are evil. If no kill, well, might be to frame but use the situation, so lynch Para if nobody kills! Also, App watches Green visit if Green is rlly Bodyguard. If App DOESN'T see Green, it's TvS or SvS with the two of them. If Para flips scum, and App sees Green visit, Debil/App is 2nd mafia. If Para flips town, and App says he watched Green visit, it means nothing. App and Green might be mafia together. However, if Para flips town and App says he watched Green visit Chemist, App isn't always mafia either! Because Janitor can also visit.

If Mafia killed and cleaned, you are in EXACTLY the same thing as if Para flipped town, but now with Para alive in the voting. You should vote Debil/Green most likely in that case.

If I'm voted to execute this plan, I'm still happy because we might win by doing this.

[TheDebil]

Vice versa actually-- I think the way to confirm you is to lynch debil, as if we lynch debil you're ns. Yeah, possibility of gf, but still.

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[xApprenticex]

Actually, we could lynch Para. They are doing nothing currently and if they flip scum, I'm confirmed. If they are town, Chemist can rb me while Chemist is watched AND rb'd. If App is LO, they can confirm Green, which would confirm Green. If mafia still killed, I'm also confirmed. If mafia didn't kill to frame me, I should be lynched because I'm sadly not confirmed in that way, however it could confirm many other players.

In the case Para flips scum, App and Green could do the same strat, while Chemist rb's Debil. It's a good plan I think.

Tbh it could work with me being lynched also but I'm more active than Para and I think the plan needs active ppl to work.

App, does this plan work for you? Also I changed my mind on App.

/vote unvote

Assuming that anyone here expect for your Mafia buddy would listen to you.

[xApprenticex]

If Phoenix flips Godfather:

Chemist role blocks Debil
Green protects Chemist
I watch Chemist

If Mafia kills, Green is the last Mafia.
If no one dies, we have +1 mis-lynch and I’ll know whether Green is a Bodyguard or not. If they are, then lynch Debil and vice versa.

If Phoenix were to flip Godfather, then there’s zero possibility for Town to lose.

Explanation: The last Mafia would be between Debil/Green and blocking one of them, confirms which one is Mafia. The no kill scenario is covered by me where I confirm Green if Mafia chooses not to kill.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If Phoenix flips Janitor:

None of the actions matter.

Lynch Debil who is lock Mafia.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If Phoenix flips Citizen:

Chemist role blocks Parallax
Green protects Me
I watch Green
Debil checks Green

If Mafia kills anyone expect me, I’ll know whether Debil is a Sheriff or not. If they are, then lynch Green and vice versa.
If Mafia kills me, Green and Parallax are both Mafia who can be lynched consecutively.

Explanation: A Citizen flip will confirm Parallax as Mafia and allow Escort to block one of Mafia’s action, therefore Janitor!Debil can’t fake being a Bodyguard by visiting, if a Mafia Kill were to happen. I need to be alive in order to confirm or deny Debil being a Sheriff. If I die, it confirms Green as a fake one.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If I’m missing anything here, tell me.

[greenrabbit7]

All PR claims have a chance to be janitor who haven't been confirmed or killed, so

Apprentice/Green/Debil

One of those is janitor. One of our non confirmed cits is gf, our confirmed cits being:

Mario/Fifth

This is right correct?

However App is a bit unlikely and you and Debil might be Janitor and GF.

/vote Parallax

I think you are Godfather, Para, sorry if I'm wrong but it's unlikely in my opinion 2 mafias decided to claim PR, and we are the only 2 non-confirmed Citizens.

Btw, if I am quickhammered and I can't talk anymore because I'm going to bed now, this is the plan which should be followed!
Chemist rb's Para.
App watches Chemist.
Green protects Chemist.
Debil checks App/Green.
If mafia kills/cleans, Para is confirmed and 2 of the PR's are evil. If no kill, well, might be to frame but use the situation, so lynch Para if nobody kills! Also, App watches Green visit if Green is rlly Bodyguard. If App DOESN'T see Green, it's TvS or SvS with the two of them. If Para flips scum, and App sees Green visit, Debil/App is 2nd mafia. If Para flips town, and App says he watched Green visit, it means nothing. App and Green might be mafia together. However, if Para flips town and App says he watched Green visit Chemist, App isn't always mafia either! Because Janitor can also visit.

If Mafia killed and cleaned, you are in EXACTLY the same thing as if Para flipped town, but now with Para alive in the voting. You should vote Debil/Green most likely in that case.

If I'm voted to execute this plan, I'm still happy because we might win by doing this.

The problem is the janitor could clean, and if the janitor does clean then I am confirmed. Otherwise, I could just have visited chemist as janitor.

[greenrabbit7]

If Phoenix flips Godfather:

Chemist role blocks Debil
Green protects Chemist
I watch Chemist

If Mafia kills, Green is the last Mafia.
If no one dies, we have +1 mis-lynch and I’ll know whether Green is a Bodyguard or not. If they are, then lynch Debil and vice versa.

If Phoenix were to flip Godfather, then there’s zero possibility for Town to lose.

Explanation: The last Mafia would be between Debil/Green and blocking one of them, confirms which one is Mafia. The no kill scenario is covered by me where I confirm Green if Mafia chooses not to kill.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If Phoenix flips Janitor:

None of the actions matter.

Lynch Debil who is lock Mafia.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If Phoenix flips Citizen:

Chemist role blocks Parallax
Green protects Me
I watch Green
Debil checks Green

If Mafia kills anyone expect me, I’ll know whether Debil is a Sheriff or not. If they are, then lynch Green and vice versa.
If Mafia kills me, Green and Parallax are both Mafia who can be lynched consecutively.

Explanation: A Citizen flip will confirm Parallax as Mafia and allow Escort to block one of Mafia’s action, therefore Janitor!Debil can’t fake being a Bodyguard by visiting, if a Mafia Kill were to happen. I need to be alive in order to confirm or deny Debil being a Sheriff. If I die, it confirms Green as a fake one.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If I’m missing anything here, tell me.

Yknow what, I like this plan.

/vote unvote

/vote Phone

[Phone0Ix]

It's basically my plan on Para but with our names swapped

[Phone0Ix]

And App forgot he might be evil

[greenrabbit7]

Actually wait, app, I want to revise your plan. Hold on.

[greenrabbit7]

If Phoenix flips Godfather:

Chemist role blocks Debil
Green protects Chemist
I watch Chemist

If Phoenix were to flip Godfather, then there’s zero possibility for Town to lose.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If Phoenix flips Janitor:

None of the actions matter.

Lynch Debil who is lock Mafia.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If Phoenix flips Citizen:

Chemist role blocks Parallax
Green protects Me
I watch Debil
Debil checks Green

This way. if I am mafia, then I can't kill debil. Yes the mafia can kill me, but ultimately I am a suspect here. It is better to lose a non confirmed town then a confirmed one.

[MoustachioMario]

GG

[TheDebil]

If Phoenix flips Godfather:

Chemist role blocks Debil
Green protects Chemist
I watch Chemist

If Mafia kills, Green is the last Mafia.
If no one dies, we have +1 mis-lynch and I’ll know whether Green is a Bodyguard or not. If they are, then lynch Debil and vice versa.

If Phoenix were to flip Godfather, then there’s zero possibility for Town to lose.

Explanation: The last Mafia would be between Debil/Green and blocking one of them, confirms which one is Mafia. The no kill scenario is covered by me where I confirm Green if Mafia chooses not to kill.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If Phoenix flips Janitor:

None of the actions matter.

Lynch Debil who is lock Mafia.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If Phoenix flips Citizen:

Chemist role blocks Parallax
Green protects Me
I watch Green
Debil checks Green

If Mafia kills anyone expect me, I’ll know whether Debil is a Sheriff or not. If they are, then lynch Green and vice versa.
If Mafia kills me, Green and Parallax are both Mafia who can be lynched consecutively.

Explanation: A Citizen flip will confirm Parallax as Mafia and allow Escort to block one of Mafia’s action, therefore Janitor!Debil can’t fake being a Bodyguard by visiting, if a Mafia Kill were to happen. I need to be alive in order to confirm or deny Debil being a Sheriff. If I die, it confirms Green as a fake one.

This scenario is a guaranteed win for Town.

If I’m missing anything here, tell me.

yeah, these seem good. 3rd one is the only one i can see going south, but also pretty unlikely. do we do it now, or later?

[TheDebil]

its 1 am guys im going to sleep, 4 votes on phone im hammering as 5th

/vote phone0ix

[MoustachioMario]

its 1 am guys im going to sleep, 4 votes on phone im hammering as 5th

/vote phone0ix

I think this was hammer
So no more posting now :I

[greenrabbit7]

Geez this day was fast

[xApprenticex]

Well, everyone follow the night plan then. Failure to do so will result in you being lynched.

[greenrabbit7]

Well, everyone follow the night plan then. Failure to do so will result in you being lynched.

please repeat the current plan for each flip

[greenrabbit7]

oh wait i see why you cant watch debil now

nvm dont change it

[xApprenticex]

Dunno if hammered happened or not, but Wabbit hasn’t locked the thread so I assume not.

[greenrabbit7]

So, app. what was your personal goal?

[greenrabbit7]

App wait. 3 dosent confirm me or debil unless you die.

[greenrabbit7]

If regular maf kill and debil is jan, debil cleans me. It's a visit. Either maf or town

Meanwhile if you watch debil I as jan can clean him

its only a reveal if clean or you die