Vampire OVERHAUL

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Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:20 pm

Hello it's me TrueGuardian32 with another idea, I talked about this over on the TG Discord, check it out if you haven't yet.

This idea revolves around the Vampire, and turns the Vampire from a NC to a NK.
The Mechanic
Spoiler: The Vampire bites now "Infect" instead of "convert". This concept is taken from Plaguebearer, but not as OP. The Infected will help the Vampire by visiting others, (If they so choose too.) The Infected will keep the original role and goal they had before. And if the Vampire dies, they are no longer classified as infected. Vampire does not convert.

The Goal
Spoiler: The Goal text is now changed to
Turn the town into vampires, and kill those who oppose you.


Additional Interactions
Spoiler: If a role that didn't have the ability to visit is infected they will be given the ability to visit, confirming the Vampires existence in the case of medium and other non visiting town roles.
Will attack roles that are classified as Evil, such as NK, NE, Mafia, Coven, NC.


New Vampire Hunter Interactions
Spoiler: Vampire Hunter will pierce the Vampires defense
Vampire Hunter does not attack Infected, but he does check if they are.
Vampire Hunter can be killed by the Vampire if the Vampire finds him first, but the Vampire Hunter can also kill the Vampire if he find vampire first.
Vampire Hunter is now Unique


What this accomplish
Spoiler: Lowers saltiness from having your win stolen from a conversion role.
Is not a conversion role.
Removes a OP Role making a balanced role.
A interesting NK


A Rough Attempt at a Role Card
Spoiler: Attack:Basic | Defense:Basic
Role: Vampire
Alignment: Neutral Killing
Ability: Choose 1 person each night to bite them
Special Attributes: Attack Evils
Goal: Turn the Town into vampires and kill those who oppose you.


Shilsters Attempt at a Role Card.
Spoiler:
Vampire

Attack: BasicdgasadfghjklDefense: Basic


Alignment: Neutral (Killing)

Abilities:
- Choose one person each night to bite them.

Attributes:
- None.

Goal: Turn the Town to Vampires and kill those who oppose you.


Keep note that this is just a rough attempt at the idea, I'm pretty bad at flavor so I don't have it, if anyone else feels like they would like a crack at making the RI look good go ahead.
Last edited by TrueGuardian32 on Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:08 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby Shilster » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:21 pm

Basically it's like a PB?

How does the VH interact with infected targets?

Is this unique btw?


Spoiler:
Vampire

Attack: BasicdgasadfghjklDefense: Basic


Alignment: Neutral (Killing)

Abilities:
- Choose one person each night to bite them.

Attributes:
- None.

Goal: Turn the Town to Vampires and kill those who oppose you.

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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:12 am

Shilster wrote:Basically it's like a PB?

How does the VH interact with infected targets?

Is this unique btw?


Spoiler:
Vampire

Attack: BasicdgasadfghjklDefense: Basic


Alignment: Neutral (Killing)

Abilities:
- Choose one person each night to bite them.

Attributes:
- None.

Goal: Turn the Town to Vampires and kill those who oppose you.



Love the RC,
Also to answer your questions, Yes it is Unique, Yes it's similar to PB since I got the idea from PB.

Vampire Hunter interactions I have already explain in OP. But I'll do so again here, the VH can check a person each night to see if they have been infected. If they had it will let the VH know. The Vampire Hunter will not kill the Infected, If the Vampire Hunter finds the Vampire, it will attack and kill the Vampire.
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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby Shilster » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:18 am

Maybe make the VH unique as well.
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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby Barfer789 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:06 am

Shilster wrote:Maybe make the VH unique as well.


If it wasn't, it'd be unfair due to two/three VHs teaming up against a singular vampire.
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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:08 am

Barfer789 wrote:
Shilster wrote:Maybe make the VH unique as well.


If it wasn't, it'd be unfair due to two/three VHs teaming up against a singular vampire.

Alright added it to OP.
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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby Flare12332 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:17 am

Thank you I hated Vampire because it's a conversion role
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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:22 am

Flare12332 wrote:Thank you I hated Vampire because it's a conversion role

Agreed. The Plaguebearer though OP, gave me the idea to balance this role and make it better.
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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby BasicFourLife » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:00 pm

I suggest adding a poll to most of your ideas, or you'll never guess what people think about your role.
This role doesn't seem very balanced to me, since it has some major flaws, since it can't even kill anyone.
Making winning with this role extremely hard and how would you explain that if there are 5 people are alive.
You as the Vampire, Godfather, Mayor, Medium, Escort and everyone was infected, does that mean the game would auto end, because you can't do anything against this roles ability and it would unbalanced.
So by this role you mean you can infect less people but once you have everyone infected you win?
This role is more un fun than the the original Vampire.
RNG is never good for any strategy based game. Please learn the definition of what that means, especially if you're one of the people constantly defending it.

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Re: Vampire OVERHAUL

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:16 pm

BasicFourLife wrote:I suggest adding a poll to most of your ideas, or you'll never guess what people think about your role.
This role doesn't seem very balanced to me, since it has some major flaws, since it can't even kill anyone.
Making winning with this role extremely hard and how would you explain that if there are 5 people are alive.
You as the Vampire, Godfather, Mayor, Medium, Escort and everyone was infected, does that mean the game would auto end, because you can't do anything against this roles ability and it would unbalanced.
So by this role you mean you can infect less people but once you have everyone infected you win?
This role is more un fun than the the original Vampire.

GodFather can't be infected, he will be basic attacked. If Everyone was infected the Vampire would auto win yes.
Also I would like playing as this role, Although it doesn't kill or take down vote count, no one knows for certain when you will win. Also if a Vampire exists we will have a witch hunt happen in game to find the Vampire before it wins.
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