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Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Schultz128 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:12 pm

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Hey guys, it's finally time for the second voting session of the Creator's Spotlight!


For this event, you've got 30 different roles to vote for!


Since there are 30 roles, we will be electing three roles and all voters will now have three votes!


To submit your votes, send "Schultz128" a PM with the subject "CSV" that contains your votes for your roles. The roles with the most votes will be added to the Experimental Rolelist in Standards!


Voting will last until the end of Episode XVI. When Episode XVI ends, users will be given 3 additional days to place their votes!


In the mean time, feel free to discuss in the thread!





Rules for Voting:

  1. Self Voting - Users may not vote for their own roles.
  2. Voting Limit and Integrity - Users cannot vote more than what they're assigned. This means you are not allowed to vote on a role with alternate accounts. If a user is discovered to have been using alts to vote for roles, hence exceeding their vote limit, they will be barred from participating in the Creator's Spotlight permanently.
  3. Beggars - We prefer if you do not constantly beg for votes. You're allowed to try and convince people to vote for your role, but don't be obnoxious about it.



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Gunsmith (Town Killing) by TeamMystic
(Snow)Baller (Town Investigative) by moonbird
Oracle (Town Support) by BS4125
Sneak (Town Investigative) by JammySplodge
Hunter (Town Killing) by BasicFourLife
Warden (Town Support) by JammySplodge
Time Traveler (Town Power) by EvilDeanius0
Paparazzi (Town Killing) by non271103
Blacksmith (Town Protective) by ManateeDude
Sacrificial (Town Killing) by enderitem
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Reworked Framer (Mafia Deception) by ZoruaLuhansk
Mystic (Mafia Espionage) by ManateeDUde
Contortionist (Mafia Tactial) by Fenraiser
Night Results Thief (Mafia Support) by ZoruaLuhansk
Fryer (Mafia Deception) by UzayAltay
Silencer (Mafia Deception) by Metrion
Watchman (Mafia Espionage) by Varanus
Sleeper (Mafia Espionage) by Fenraiser
Femme Fatale (Mafia Tactial) by enderitem
Carabiniere (Mafia Espionage) by BS4125
Painter (Mafia Tactial) by UzayAltay
Ghast (Mafia Head) by ManateeDude
Ambusher (Mafia Head) by Kmenx
Beguiler (Mafia Deception) by OllyRenard
Sneak (Mafia Espionage) by ManateeDude

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Butcher (Neutral Killing) by Parallax7
Vampire (Neutral Evil) by UzayAltay
Mirrorer (Neutral Evil) by xUltiix
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Varanus » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:41 pm

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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby chitownmvp01 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:12 pm

Cabiniere ECO needs to have an addition about what happens if a Marshal is on its target if added.

Mirrorer needs to be modified so that it cannot mirror TKs if added. At minimum, it shouldn't be able to mirror a Firebrand. That can get really dicey with ignites (can it mirror a Firebrand to ignite if a Firebrand douses on the same night? Do both Firebrand and Mirrorer targets die if either chooses to ignite? etc.).
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:31 pm

Ignore all of my roles <3
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby xUltiix » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:32 pm

Voting plaguebearer
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Schultz128 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:49 pm

Nightmarer was removed from the list as it had apparently been deleted.

Plaguebearer has been removed from the list as the Balance team found it to be unfit for a balanced environment.

Votes still remain at 3 each.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby OllyRenard » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:59 pm

Plaguebearer was removed
Why even vote?
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby lemonader666 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:19 am

Plaugebearer is gone
no reason to vote now

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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:28 am

OllyRenard wrote:Plaguebearer was removed
Why even vote?

lemonader666 wrote:Plaugebearer is gone
no reason to vote now


nice original joke there
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby lemonader666 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:34 am

thanks, I made it myself ^:)

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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Kmenx » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:23 am

Jordarrian wrote:Can I constantly beg people to vote Gunsmith so it won't be added

:thonk: but you are not teammystic ha gottem
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Kmenx » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:24 am

Wait Evan can't vote now because the plaguebearer was removed LMAO
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Schultz128 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:45 am

Kmenx wrote:Wait Evan can't vote now because the plaguebearer was removed LMAO


?

Anyone can vote, not just submitters.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby FMLSheWas12 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:32 am

We need more neutrals.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby UzayAltay » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:54 am

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Gunsmith (Town Killing) by TeamMystic - It is A bit OP when compared to vigi and vet . It is Like 3 shot guiltless Day Vig , with difference You Dont shoot directly .
(Snow)Baller (Town Investigative) by moonbird - Weaker Than current TIs
Oracle (Town Support) by BS4125 - Interesting role , but probably weaker Than other TSs . It is basically a 1-shot town Consig who take Result when died .
Sneak (Town Investigative) by JammySplodge - Too Swingy
Hunter (Town Killing) by BasicFourLife -OP , ( can kill More Than vigi , and can gain info about target before kill . (Can used as TI ) )
Warden (Town Support) by JammySplodge - Basically A Jailkeeper , I Dont think We need A Jailkeeper for standart games .
Time Traveler (Town Power) by EvilDeanius0 - Good role , not too swingy , and balanced .
Paparazzi (Town Killing) by non271103 - UP
Blacksmith (Town Protective) by ManateeDude - Good role , may be A bit underpowered .
Sacrificial (Town Killing) by enderitem - Not good .
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Mystic (Mafia Espionage) by ManateeDUde - Interesting role .
Contortionist (Mafia Tactial) by Fenraiser - Interesting role , too .
Night Results Thief (Mafia Support) by ZoruaLuhansk - First , This should be MD , not MS . Not A bad role , but probably it should be limited use .
Fryer (Mafia Deception) by UzayAltay - Night ability is just an ability for ability . I think it is about Same strength with janitor , Maybe A bit More powerful Than janitor .
Silencer (Mafia Deception) by Metrion - Interesting role , cant decide about role's strength . Probably not balanced , either UP or OP , but cant exactly decide .
Watchman (Mafia Espionage) by Varanus - Weak .
Sleeper (Mafia Espionage) by Fenraiser - A bit OP .
Femme Fatale (Mafia Tactial) by enderitem - Weak ? Cant understand What role does but it seems pretty situonal to me .
Carabiniere (Mafia Espionage) by BS4125 - Actually A good role , may be A bit OP .
Painter (Mafia Tactial) by UzayAltay - Good at early Game , can be good at organizing with neutrals against town . Goon after neutrals die .
Ghast (Mafia Head) by ManateeDude - broken .
Ambusher (Mafia Head) by Kmenx - Interesting role , but A bit Weak compared to Godfather and Capo .
Beguiler (Mafia Deception) by OllyRenard - OP .
Sneak (Mafia Espionage) by ManateeDude - A bit Weak , I think This role should both know roles and players .
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Butcher (Neutral Killing) by Parallax7 - I think it is balanced .
Vampire (Neutral Evil) by UzayAltay- TBH I think it is only A bit stronger Than Witch .
Mirrorer (Neutral Evil) by xUltiix - Not A bad role I think .
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby OllyRenard » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:46 pm

Everyone vote Beguiler, please and thank you

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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby EvanManManMan » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:00 pm

Plaguebearer is not balanced but bomber is somehow ok

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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Varanus » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:08 pm

The only people that use bomber are people that hate balance
It's unfortunate, but people really like clinging to the mistakes added in the past

The least we can do is try to stop more of them from being added
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Kmenx » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:20 pm

EvanManManMan wrote:Plaguebearer is not balanced but bomber is somehow ok

Alright

This is so sad guys can we please get 50 votes on Plaguebearer
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby EvanManManMan » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:22 pm

Varanus wrote:The only people that use bomber are people that hate balance
It's unfortunate, but people really like clinging to the mistakes added in the past

The least we can do is try to stop more of them from being added
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This is why adding plaguebearer is actually very beneficial

Currently, bomber is listed as NE and can therefore roll in NE slots. Bomber is actually neutral chaos. However a category can not be made with one role. Therefore by adding another neutral chaos role i.e. plaguebearer the ability to create a neutral chaos subalignment is granted, allowing bombers to not roll in games while also keeping shitters who like the role happy due to it not being removed.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Parallax7 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:47 pm

When I submitted Butcher - I didn’t really change it to coordinate with the various nuances FM has, compared to Town of Salem.

That being said the detectablity trait, and immunity to disruption, are optional. I believe the same applicable to being informed a player’s sub alignment, although this could lead to misplays, like Mafia Universe Janitor.

Some thoughts on a couple roles submitted. Sneak is pretty broken tbh - it’s susceptibility to deception does not compensate for its absurdly powerful ability to essentially confirm town.

Oracle’s utility hinges on a town for scum trade - which is broken, don’t @ me. Still don’t know why it was added into TG.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Schultz128 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:15 pm

Nobody even runs Bomber aside from CL Purists.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby chitownmvp01 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:21 pm

Schultz128 wrote:Nobody even runs Bomber aside from CL Purists.


This. Nobody else likes Bomber.

EvanManManMan wrote:
Varanus wrote:The only people that use bomber are people that hate balance
It's unfortunate, but people really like clinging to the mistakes added in the past

The least we can do is try to stop more of them from being added
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This is why adding plaguebearer is actually very beneficial

Currently, bomber is listed as NE and can therefore roll in NE slots. Bomber is actually neutral chaos. However a category can not be made with one role. Therefore by adding another neutral chaos role i.e. plaguebearer the ability to create a neutral chaos subalignment is granted, allowing bombers to not roll in games while also keeping shitters who like the role happy due to it not being removed.


We don't need a Neutral Chaos alignment with Bomber and Plaguebearer. Bomber isn't a good role and don't bring Neutral Chaos to FM pls. Both roles will rarely be ran, but you are allowed to submit a setup with Plaguebearer if it's balanced (I did that to test the Werewolf in 11E).
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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby Metrion » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:12 am

EvanManManMan wrote:
Varanus wrote:The only people that use bomber are people that hate balance
It's unfortunate, but people really like clinging to the mistakes added in the past

The least we can do is try to stop more of them from being added
*Laughs in Botanist*

This is why adding plaguebearer is actually very beneficial

Currently, bomber is listed as NE and can therefore roll in NE slots. Bomber is actually neutral chaos. However a category can not be made with one role. Therefore by adding another neutral chaos role i.e. plaguebearer the ability to create a neutral chaos subalignment is granted, allowing bombers to not roll in games while also keeping shitters who like the role happy due to it not being removed.


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Re: Creator's Spotlight Voting Thread (Episode XVI)

Postby BasicFourLife » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:59 am

Tbh Butcher's Killing Rate needs some changing.
Ambusher is interesting but needs changes.
RNG is never good for any strategy based game. Please learn the definition of what that means, especially if you're one of the people constantly defending it.

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