12E: Treacherous Temple: Game Over (Town, NB, NE Won!)

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

Why are these games so fucking scumsided jesus christ

Closed games or just on this site in general? I think if your vig shoots your Medium and two cits die and you lynch a jester. You've made enough mistakes to where we should be in LyLo if we lynch someone who is town and wouldn't give us enough information to kill the NK tomorrow.

This game AND in general, it's like in my games on MU there is 3 scum against 8 town and it's like town power roles to the max, like honestly like Santa's last game had EIGHT scum, EIGHT scum and 12 town, that's fucking insane, just like all these games on this site.

[chitownmvp01]

This is the ideal scenario for me:
Lynch Olly -> if he is town go a, if scum go b.

a
if Quantum doesn't die then Under is cleared of being stalker which means he is arso, det, or town. If another Escort/Consort dies then leyva is confirmed Stalker. If neither happens then basically, Consort or Escort, whoever is blocking leyva will either block him or not and we will see if a charge is placed or someone is doused. If the block lines up with what is observed then leyva is NK or at least Under is not NK, if not then Under is NK. If leyva is NK then Under cannot be scum, therefore I must be scum, we would lynch either leyva or I. If Under is NK then we lynch him obviously. If leyva wants to check under or I for a triple layer of certainty then he can go right ahead and do that. If Quantum wants to roleblock me then she can do that.

b
lynch Jammy and andilin because they are all obvious scum with Olly.



I don't think Under should be lynched at this time because that would make for two mislynches whereas this would only be a single mislynch at most. And if you are going to say "but what about the Parity Cop we can't kill him", I honestly don't think he is parity cop, but if he is then we will literally have every single scum because of that group of 5 people who are mafia would go to 4 people and we can spare a mislynch if we get rid of NK before N4. So we would just lynch those 4 and win the game.

We're potentially in LyLo if we ML today.

Not if we lynch NK before N4. If we lynch Olly today we will know NK tomorrow and we will not be in LyLo and then we can lynch Jammy, andilin, Macca, and leyva and just win.

Yes the role list is closed, but it's safe to assume that it's balanced. Let's say that it's a 13/4/3 setup. Today would be 9/3/2. A ML followed by a Mafia kill and 1 NK kill makes it 6/3/2, which would be LyLo.

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

Who knows, there could be 10 fucking scum

[andilin1]

Who knows, there could be 10 fucking scum

From the scum himself

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

Who knows, there could be 10 fucking scum

From the scum himself

You sir are acctual scum

[chitownmvp01]

Who knows, there could be 10 fucking scum

I've hosted a closed game before, I know better than you.

[ShortcutButton]

Who knows, there could be 10 fucking scum

I've hosted a closed game before, I know better than you.

I'm pretty sure a 10v10 game has been at least suggested before, and it was prolly someone like LoF.

[PurpleSidewalk1]

This is the ideal scenario for me:
Lynch Olly -> if he is town go a, if scum go b.

a
if Quantum doesn't die then Under is cleared of being stalker which means he is arso, det, or town. If another Escort/Consort dies then leyva is confirmed Stalker. If neither happens then basically, Consort or Escort, whoever is blocking leyva will either block him or not and we will see if a charge is placed or someone is doused. If the block lines up with what is observed then leyva is NK or at least Under is not NK, if not then Under is NK. If leyva is NK then Under cannot be scum, therefore I must be scum, we would lynch either leyva or I. If Under is NK then we lynch him obviously. If leyva wants to check under or I for a triple layer of certainty then he can go right ahead and do that. If Quantum wants to roleblock me then she can do that.

b
lynch Jammy and andilin because they are all obvious scum with Olly.



I don't think Under should be lynched at this time because that would make for two mislynches whereas this would only be a single mislynch at most. And if you are going to say "but what about the Parity Cop we can't kill him", I honestly don't think he is parity cop, but if he is then we will literally have every single scum because of that group of 5 people who are mafia would go to 4 people and we can spare a mislynch if we get rid of NK before N4. So we would just lynch those 4 and win the game.

We're potentially in LyLo if we ML today.

Not if we lynch NK before N4. If we lynch Olly today we will know NK tomorrow and we will not be in LyLo and then we can lynch Jammy, andilin, Macca, and leyva and just win.

Yes the role list is closed, but it's safe to assume that it's balanced. Let's say that it's a 13/4/3 setup. Today would be 9/3/2. A ML followed by a Mafia kill and 1 NK kill makes it 6/3/2, which would be LyLo.

Hey chit remember that thing that is called a survivor? They are on our team now chit. It is 7v3v1 from my PoV in which we know the NK so it is actually just 6v3 meaning that we can spare a mislynch. And even if you don't trust survivor then don't you think we can figure out who is scum when one of the four who are 99.9% mafia is a claimed sheriff? That will fall apart very soon if leyva is mafia or even not mafia.

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Also there are a million ways that this could go wrong for scum if we lynch olly, but only one way it could go wrong for scum if we lynch Under and he flips town.

[chitownmvp01]

Purple how did you get 7v3v1 for today? There is 14 people alive.

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Purple how did you get 7v3v1 for today? There is 14 people alive.

No for D4 obviously. Why would I say the numbers for today when I am talking about what would happen if we mislynch today?

[chitownmvp01]

This is the ideal scenario for me:
Lynch Olly -> if he is town go a, if scum go b.

a
if Quantum doesn't die then Under is cleared of being stalker which means he is arso, det, or town. If another Escort/Consort dies then leyva is confirmed Stalker. If neither happens then basically, Consort or Escort, whoever is blocking leyva will either block him or not and we will see if a charge is placed or someone is doused. If the block lines up with what is observed then leyva is NK or at least Under is not NK, if not then Under is NK. If leyva is NK then Under cannot be scum, therefore I must be scum, we would lynch either leyva or I. If Under is NK then we lynch him obviously. If leyva wants to check under or I for a triple layer of certainty then he can go right ahead and do that. If Quantum wants to roleblock me then she can do that.

b
lynch Jammy and andilin because they are all obvious scum with Olly.



I don't think Under should be lynched at this time because that would make for two mislynches whereas this would only be a single mislynch at most. And if you are going to say "but what about the Parity Cop we can't kill him", I honestly don't think he is parity cop, but if he is then we will literally have every single scum because of that group of 5 people who are mafia would go to 4 people and we can spare a mislynch if we get rid of NK before N4. So we would just lynch those 4 and win the game.

We're potentially in LyLo if we ML today.

Not if we lynch NK before N4. If we lynch Olly today we will know NK tomorrow and we will not be in LyLo and then we can lynch Jammy, andilin, Macca, and leyva and just win.

Yes the role list is closed, but it's safe to assume that it's balanced. Let's say that it's a 13/4/3 setup. Today would be 9/3/2. A ML followed by a Mafia kill and 1 NK kill makes it 6/3/2, which would be LyLo.

Hey chit remember that thing that is called a survivor? They are on our team now chit. It is 7v3v1 from my PoV in which we know the NK so it is actually just 6v3 meaning that we can spare a mislynch. And even if you don't trust survivor then don't you think we can figure out who is scum when one of the four who are 99.9% mafia is a claimed sheriff? That will fall apart very soon if leyva is mafia or even not mafia.

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

[PurpleSidewalk1]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

[chitownmvp01]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

Yes I'm aware. I'm thinking too far ahead. Sorry.

[andilin1]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

You could be scum too ;P

[chitownmvp01]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

You could be scum too ;P

You've been pushing UNDERSTOOD the whole game though.

[MichaelgRook]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

[andilin1]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

You could be scum too ;P

You've been pushing UNDERSTOOD the whole game though.

My gut says UNDER is NK and UNDER is acting unlike town UNDER.

[PurpleSidewalk1]

My gut says UNDER is NK and UNDER is acting unlike town UNDER.

In what way?

[andilin1]

Holy shit, 500ish posts... not gunna look through them all. His defensiveness isn't normal. Like at all for being town, even as UNDER.

His not wanting to claim a role means that he is probably a role that can't make risks, which means he is probably NK.

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

Holy shit, 500ish posts... not gunna look through them all. His defensiveness isn't normal. Like at all for being town, even as UNDER.

His not wanting to claim a role means that he is probably a role that can't make risks, which means he is probably NK.

I literally am called Mr.OMGUS

[ShortcutButton]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

You could be scum too ;P

proof that andilen simply isn't reading.

[chitownmvp01]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

You could be scum too ;P

proof that andilen simply isn't reading.

that isn't even surprising, no offense andilin

[andilin1]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

You could be scum too ;P

proof that andilen simply isn't reading.

that isn't even surprising, no offense andilin

He was never conf town
Just prob town.

[chitownmvp01]

You are assuming that Evil will vote with us, which is fine, but hopefully we don't end up needing to depend on his vote.

I see your point in lynching Olly today, but if we mislynch today and tomorrow and there is a Mafia and NK kill each the next 2 nights, Evil's vote isn't enough to win. Unless I miscalculated.

Evil actually isn't a bad lynch in LyLo if we don't have confirmed scum because then night kills further narrow things down. I hope we never get to that point though.

I also have a wild hunch that Evil is secretly Bomber.

/unvote if I didn't already do so

Don't you understand that we know who scum is out of Under and I if we lynch Olly today?

You could be scum too ;P

proof that andilen simply isn't reading.

that isn't even surprising, no offense andilin

He was never conf town
Just prob town.

Who is?