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[JamesD28]

I actually think Jezz's First Impressions were really thorough, much more thorough than everyone elses

Same

Slept peacefully.

Hypoclaims:
Investigator - BS4125: Citizen/Framer
Sheriff - JamesD28: Not Suspicious
Lookout - frop418: No visits

I'll hop on with the discussion once I come back.

Well, we know you aren't Lookout since it's already been established that I invested frop

[BS4125]

Slept peacefully.

Hypoclaims:
Investigator - BS4125: Citizen/Framer
Sheriff - JamesD28: Not Suspicious
Lookout - frop418: No visits

I'll hop on with the discussion once I come back.

Well, we know you aren't Lookout since it's already been established that I invested frop[/quote]
Could be Investigator/Consigliere

[Jezz92]

Thanks, BS. And James.

Still, ultiix is much more experienced at the game than we are so he probably does has a reasonable explanation.

[BS4125]

Thanks, BS. And James.

Still, ultiix is much more experienced at the game than we are so he probably does has a reasonable explanation.

Yehh...

[tardispaten]

Oh, I see this thread was unlocked.

Sorry I'm late

I slept peacefully

[HeavensDesert]

At work, will reply soon

[xUltiix]

My current ranks as of the end of day 1:
1. Me – town
okay read as obv people will read themselves as town
2. Tardis - town
encouraging people to claim and calling hardclaiming softclaiming is dumb but idiocy is NAI, I would nullread tardis
3. Stri - town
supporting good things like not doing needless hardclaiming is good, this read is somewhat okay and he kept the town from being completely misled however things like wanting a nolynch are a bit strange so I really would not hardread them as town, maybe very slight town
4. Heavens – slight town
"At this stage, there's no real warning signs with her and she's making a decent effort: slight town. "
ultrabad read, all they have done is be NAI and you nullread some people who have done the same stuff as her
5. Ultiix – very slight town
A read I know is correct but being active, putting effort in, and helping the town is NAI as it can easily be faked
6. Thewabbit – very slight town
"Talking fancily. Could be seen as creating a sense of sophistication in the game or distracting the town from the task at hand (slight warning sign). Same opinion as me regarding the heythere wagon being too hasty. Supports hypo claiming. Decent early reads, although slightly confused about his null read of me. He didn't like the wagons; could be seen as a concerned townie or scum worried that he could be next on the chopping block. Would have been the hammer on juvenile if heythere hadn't unvoted. A couple of small warning signs with him but overall: very slight town. "
He acted exactly like this last game, and why dont you look at what he flipped last game d2? He has mostly been fluffing with useless stuff as well.
7. BS4125 – not sure (slight town and slight scum traits)
8. James – not sure (slightly scummy behaviour with a TI hardclaim)
9. Heythere – not sure (slight town and slight scum traits)
10. Frop – not sure (not enough info to gage yet)
Not gonna comment on nullreads but most of them except the frop read are really bad for obvious reasons
11. Dmsc – very slight scum
inactivity does not = scum

Very confident reads:
Tardis
Stri

Somewhat confident reads:
Vanquisher
Heavens
Thewabbit

Somewhat unconfident reads:
James
Heythere
Dmsc

Very unconfident reads:
Ultiix
BS4125
Frop

[xUltiix]

also @Chit you know how I play NFM

[JamesD28]

I love how literally the only read you entirely agree with is the one which says you're town

[xUltiix]

I love how literally the only read you entirely agree with is the one which says you're town

most of them are either wrong or have bad justification

Also, you really seem to be defensive of her reads...

[heytheregirl17]

Slept peacefully.

I claim Citizen.

LO: xUltiix did not get visited
Sheriff: Jezz92 nsgf
Invest: TardisPaten Citizen/Framer

Well that was stupid...

Oh LOL. Sorry about that... I laughed so hard when I noticed that I hypoed after I claimed that.

also @Chit you know how I play NFM

Tbh, that's a bad excuse... but ok...

[JamesD28]

I love how literally the only read you entirely agree with is the one which says you're town

most of them are either wrong or have bad justification

Also, you really seem to be defensive of her reads...

Yeah, because she's actually making useful input.

[xUltiix]

Slept peacefully.

I claim Citizen.

LO: xUltiix did not get visited
Sheriff: Jezz92 nsgf
Invest: TardisPaten Citizen/Framer

Well that was stupid...

Oh LOL. Sorry about that... I laughed so hard when I noticed that I hypoed after I claimed that.

also @Chit you know how I play NFM

Tbh, that's a bad excuse... but ok...

I was talking about the disrespect thing.
I am aggressive during NFM because the newbie towns need pushing.

[frop418]

I think James just has a problem with you cause you voted them yesterday

[xUltiix]

I love how literally the only read you entirely agree with is the one which says you're town

most of them are either wrong or have bad justification

Also, you really seem to be defensive of her reads...

Yeah, because she's actually making useful input.

Wrong reads arent particularly useful
And me explaining why they are wrong isnt useful?

[Jezz92]

You know what? I'll just take the criticism.

[frop418]

i'd like everyone who hasn't to claim since we have already started the mass-claim. Unless you guys want to end it there but I don't think that will be veru helpful

[BS4125]

xUltiix, just make your own new set of reads, it would be much better and help the town much more (also it can give you a chance to explain your points in more depth)

[Jezz92]

i'd like everyone who hasn't to claim since we have already started the mass-claim. Unless you guys want to end it there but I don't think that will be veru helpful

I am a citizen.

[xUltiix]

Jezz mind justifying your reads and trying to counter my criticisms on your reads?

[JamesD28]

I love how literally the only read you entirely agree with is the one which says you're town

most of them are either wrong or have bad justification

Also, you really seem to be defensive of her reads...

Yeah, because she's actually making useful input.

Wrong reads arent particularly useful
And me explaining why they are wrong isnt useful?

Reads are an opinion. You're entitled to the opinion that they're wrong, but that doesn't mean they are wrong.

[frop418]

Claims/Deaths

1) OllyRenard
2) tardispaten: Soft- Town Support
3) TheWabbit
4) JamesD28: Hard- Investigator
5) BS4125: Soft- Citizen
6) frop418: Soft- Marshal, Consigliere or Investigator
7) HeavensDesert
8) dmsc1999
9) Jezz92: Hard- Citizen
10) Stri
11) Vanquisher101 (Unknown)
12) heytheregirl17: Hard- Citizen
13) xUltiix: Hard- Citizen
14) JuvenileFourtyTwo: Hard- Citizen

[JamesD28]

I think James just has a problem with you cause you voted them yesterday

And no. I'm not salty over a vote.

[frop418]

Ya sure, tell me for real why you investigated me and not people who we have not have enough activity to be able to read like Olly, etc

[xUltiix]

Claims/Deaths

1) OllyRenard
2) tardispaten: Soft- Town Support
3) TheWabbit
4) JamesD28: Hard- Investigator
5) BS4125: Soft- Citizen
6) frop418: Soft- Marshal, Consigliere or Investigator
7) HeavensDesert
8) dmsc1999
9) Jezz92: Hard- Citizen
10) Stri
11) Vanquisher101 (Unknown)
12) heytheregirl17: Hard- Citizen
13) xUltiix: Hard- Citizen
14) JuvenileFourtyTwo: Hard- Citizen

this is really bugging me, for fuck sake 1/3 roles or claiming a subalignment is not a fucking softclaim
tardis is completely wrong and that actually may have been a misleading tactic