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Jezz92 wrote:

awesome5000 wrote:

chitownmvp01 wrote:Ici WTF would you seance awesome over Harper? Seancing Harper would allow you to get opinions from a confirmed town POV.

Ici told me to haunt Multi

And then was shot by multi
that's hilarious lol

awesome5000 wrote:

Multiuniverse wrote:> I shot Ici cuz people say they're scum
> I would've shot awesome if they didn't die
> I should've shot Olly which chit say was scum but later retracted

> I was sheeping popular wagons cuz people give good reasons

Wow
Rude
I don't regret haunting you now

chitownmvp01 wrote:Justifying sheeping? LAMO

chitownmvp01 wrote:VCA and thoughts on Multi and Ici's voting Patterns:

Spoiler:

MichaelgRook wrote:JackoDerp|6|Understood12345, ShortCutButton, Enxtra, OllyRenard, QuantumRadius, Icibalus;MultiUniverse|5|JackoDerp, Jarizok, Awesome5000, PurpleSidewalk1, chitownmvp01;Awesome5000|4|MultiUniverse, TalkingDirty, Evildeanius0, Andilin1

Multi wagon at this point is pure assuming that Jacko is town and scum are hoping for an awesome ML. This was earlier today before the Ici wagon formed. Also at this specific point in time, only 3/6 (UNDERSTOOD, Enxtra, and Quantum) I'm currently town reading.

MichaelgRook wrote:JackoDerp|7|MultiUniverse, Icibalus, ShortCutButton, MaccaMania, Enxtra, OllyRenard;Awesome5000|4|chitownmvp01, Andilin1, Understood12345, PurpleSidewalk1;Enxtra|1|QuantumRadiance;Icibalus|1|JackoDerp

This is a VC earlier than the one above in which Jacko peaked at 7 votes. I am only confident in 1 out of the 7 voters (Enxtra) being town. Although it's very unlikely that 6 scum were on the Jacko wagon at this time, only having confident in 1 out of 7 voters being town does say something.

MichaelgRook wrote:Awesome5000|7|MultiUniverse, TalkingDirty, Evildeanius0, Andilin1, Jarizok, Icibalus, JammySpoldge;JackoDerp|4|Understood12345, ShortCutButton, MaccaMania, OllyRenard;Icibalus|4|JackoDerp, PurpleSidewalk1, chitownmvp01, Awesome5000;Understood12345|1|QuantumRadius;MultiUniverse|1|xUltiix

The most recent VC has 1/4 town reads (UNDERSTOOD) on Jacko. Michael needs to check his math. However, macca has since voted and I'm not sure about him yet. He won't be hard to read after getting some associations. On the awesome wagon, I'm confident that Jarizok is town, especially since I liked anon (the previous slot holder) earlier and Jarizok hasn't done anything that pings me. Had a slight town read on murat early in D1, Jammy hasn't kept it up though. Note that Evil, Jammy, Ici, and andilin are on the awesome wagon. Each of them were on the main counter wagon (UNDERSTOOD) to snap (who was Mafia). That is a significant red flag that over half of the voters on the awesome wagon were on the main counter wagon to a Mafia member at EOD yesterday.

Assuming Jacko is town and scum are pushing for a ML on awesome, the Ici wagon is pure. With that same standard, the earlier multi wagon was pure as well. Therefore, I think the lynch should be between Ici and Multi.

I also observed this about multi. Below is his last post.

Multiuniverse wrote:L-2.

No more votes for now.

At this time, awesome was at L-2 and he hasn't been on since. So based on multi not being online since awesome was at L-2 early this morning, he has consistently hopped on the most popular wagon throughout the day. This is not town behavior. The only instances during D2 in which multi was not on the most popular wagon was right when the most popular wagon changed, but the next time he came on, he joined the most popular wagon.

The same applies for Ici. When the Jacko wagon was most popular, he was on it. And when the awesome wagon was most popular, he was on it as well. Another interesting observation from Ici is the timing of his change from the awesome to the Jacko wagon. Earlier in D2, when awesome was the most popular wagon, Ici was pushing awesome and was pretty vocal in supporting a awesome lynch. But let's take a look at when he changed to Jacko. Here it is:

MichaelgRook wrote:Awesome5000|5|MultiUniverse, TalkingDirty, Evildeanius0, Icibalus, Andilin1;JackoDerp|5|Understood12345, ShortCutButton, Enxtra, OllyRenard, QuantumRadius;MultiUniverse|5|JackoDerp, Jarizok, Awesome5000, PurpleSidewalk1, chitownmvp01

WHEN THE AWESOME AND JACKO WAGONS BECAME TIED IS WHEN HE SWITCHED!

The post below from Ici was 22 minutes after the VC indiciating that the Jacko and awesome wagons were tied.

Icibalus wrote:Alright, i've reviewed the situation, and I don't think an Awesome lynch is a good idea. We'll come back for him tommorow, but Jacko's flip gives us lots of info.

/Vote Jacko

awesome5000 wrote:

MichaelgRook wrote:

ShortcutButton wrote:@michael is this plurality or majority?

Majority. There is no plurality in standard unless explicitly stated.

Read this

No need to hammer it in. I can read you know.

After this, he kept on pushing a Jacko lynch.

He later changed back to awesome.

Icibalus wrote:

JackoDerp wrote:I feel like Icibalus is crumbling because he knows I'm right :thinking:

*sigh*

Sir, you've got me.
I might as well be really sheepy.
Oh well.

Go ahead, mislynch me tommorow. Idc.
/Vote Awesome

He appears to give up on his push on Jacko and join the most popular wagon once again as potential self preservation. But boy that is a quick trigger on self preservation. Putting awesome at L-2 as self preservation when you're at L-6 is a bit quick and panicky.

The timing of Ici's switch from awesome to Jacko sure does not feel like a coincidence. I think Ici is scum hoping around the popular wagons in search of a mislynch. And voting Jacko to break the tie obviously gets support from UNDERSTOOD. He could have easily done it in fear of getting deathtunneled by him. Scum!Ici getting on UNDERSTOOD's good side benefits Ici, especially when UNDERSTOOD could come near to being lock town pretty soon.

Tl;Dr The lynch should be between Ici and multi today. Both are clearly hoping around with the goal of joining the most popular wagon. The awesome wagon has a major red flag with 4/7 of it's voters being on the main counterwagon to a Mafia member and thus should not be lynched today. The Jacko wagon is better, but I am not confident in the majority of voters on the Jacko wagon being town.

Icibalus wrote:By the way, do you think a claim from Aweseome is in order, people?

awesome5000 wrote:

Multiuniverse wrote:Wait what did Awesome claim?

I haven't claimed yet
And it's not like my claim will help get votes off me

Icibalus wrote:

JammySplodge wrote:I regret joining this but I'll stick it through who do I sheep and why?

Afraid we have no shepherds in the town.

Nobody to sheep, imo.

Icibalus wrote:

Multiuniverse wrote:

Icibalus wrote:Alternatively, Evil is a jester.

I didn't actually consider that as a possibility, but the surv claim, followed by a faked BM'r message may have the effect of getting Evil lynched.
Thought on this?

Possible.

But there's rarely any jester in FM.

It's closed, and anything is possible.

That's why right now I'm very uneasy about us killing Evil right now.

Icibalus wrote:Alternatively, Evil is a jester.

I didn't actually consider that as a possibility, but the surv claim, followed by a faked BM'r message may have the effect of getting Evil lynched.
Thought on this?

Jarizok wrote:I would like to officially retract my townlean on Multi. That reaction to Evil outting the BM message is scumzorss to the max.

MaccaMania wrote:

- Quantum makes the first push on Snap.
- Under sheeps onto Quantums vote, but switches vote to Andilin not much later.
- Anonymous scumreads Snap, later puts a vote on him
- Purple puts a vote on Snap without explanation, in reply to Quantum asking why people aren't voting snap. Purple's vote here looks like distancing/bussing.
- Purple finally gives decent reasoning for Snap being scum and has a mini-argument which didn't seem forced while Macca and Enxtra jump onto the wagon.
- Elder(Chit) questions why people are voting Snap, Awesome votes Understood and later claims that he doesn't think Snap is scummy as well as Ici, who soft-defends Snap, later on he jumps on the Understood wagon..
- Harper, Purple and Jammy all migrate to the Understood wagon, putting him at even votes with Snap.
- Purple asks if people are going to be able to vote Snap in time and claims that they should change wagons if Snap claims a PR. Part of me think this came from town but other part of me thinks that Purple was trying to hint that Snap should claim a PR role.
- Enxtra, Chit and Understood all reinforce the Snap lynch.
- Shortcut tells people to get on and put their votes onto Snapshot, implying that he wants Snap to be lynched.
- Ultiix claims Snap is scum but doesn't vote him, Macca switches vote to Understood.
- TD comes online and completely ignores the Snap/Under argument that was going on and instead comments on a survivor thing, but later votes Snap over Understood due to ML>NL.
- Multi claims that Snap is town while they vote him. This seemed really weird because their actions seemed incredibly scum-motivated but their vote was on a mafia member. Multi is a high neutral suspect for me.
- Harper hammers Snap and Ici puts a vote on Snap AFTER the day has ended, which looks incredibly like an attempted bus after they realised that they were too late.

For the sake of convenience I referred to myself in the 3rd person and coloured all my actions as grey (null). These are the associations in terms of voting with Snap.

Icibalus wrote:

Multiuniverse wrote:/vote Jacko

Under got it right that snap is scum so I'm gonna trust their judgement this time

Multi, if you do this the asshole wins.

I'm not saying Jacko isn't subs, but nDON'T SHEEP UNDER.

HIS EGO WILL GROW EVEN BIGGER.

awesome5000 wrote:

Multiuniverse wrote:

EvilDeanius0 wrote:

UNDERSTOOD12345 wrote:

EvilDeanius0 wrote:I'm going to regret this aren't I. Smart move is to stay quiet but I'm just too damn nice.

The blackmailer is telling me to mislynch Snap.

Why would they need to tell you that?

Because I'm currently not voting him?

Multi, its never too late.

9 hours left in the day...

*sigh*

/vote Awesome

what the fuck
where did you get that vote from

EvilDeanius0 wrote:

UNDERSTOOD12345 wrote:

EvilDeanius0 wrote:I'm going to regret this aren't I. Smart move is to stay quiet but I'm just too damn nice.

The blackmailer is telling me to mislynch Snap.

Why would they need to tell you that?

Because I'm currently not voting him?

Multi, its never too late.

EvilDeanius0 wrote:I'm going to regret this aren't I. Smart move is to stay quiet but I'm just too damn nice.

The blackmailer is telling me to mislynch Snap.

Multiuniverse wrote:Even though I think Snap isn't scum I ain't gonna let a no-lynch happen

/vote snap

L-2