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glhf3 wrote:

Fenraiser wrote:I will shoot orange next time then. Thanks for the feeback though. It will help me in scum games.

No problem.

Oh yeah, good job in your first game glhf! You were pretty good and quite transparent by the end.

heytheregirl17 wrote:

Dragonfire77111 wrote:GG, pleased to see we actually won as well

Town were really bad this game (with a few exceptions - Obi, Munch, heythere for example). Scum were blatantly obvious by the end and somehow they escaped being shot/lynched. Well played to roz especially for managing to be more townie than all the living townies by the end.

Worst plays of the game: Elusive and Cow lynches, that one ITA where town only shot town and scum shot scum and intentionally missed.

You thought I was good?

You were. You had some solid reads, were obvTown and (although others may disagree) I liked your WIFOM protection strategy.

Mroz4k wrote:I dont know why people keep bringing up the Cow lynch as something where "Town" fucked up. Cow had screwed himself by playing buddy-buddy with neutral. I see people saying that he got confirmed Town at some point but I never saw any clear evidence of that.

Tbf to Cow, he did actually investigate TPA and got a "town" result. That really happened, he wasn't lying about it.

Also Mroz can you link the mafia chat?

Oh and here's our chat: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/agvwEdKQU6vak (it then carried over into discord).

Also could we please see the mafia chat?

GG, pleased to see we actually won as well

Town were really bad this game (with a few exceptions - Obi, Munch, heythere for example). Scum were blatantly obvious by the end and somehow they escaped being shot/lynched. Well played to roz especially for managing to be more townie than all the living townies by the end.

Worst plays of the game: Elusive and Cow lynches, that one ITA where town only shot town and scum shot scum and intentionally missed.

GG

Schultz, take the V2. The rest of us can handle the NPCs.

Can the V2 kill the AV with one shot? I doubt it

Wth a Rebel shot at the V2? Either there's a Gallian role with an ability to hijack a scum NPC, or the V2 is harmful to scum in some way

orangeandblack5 wrote:Somebody get Schultz on that V2

NOW

Yeah leave the V2 to Schultz, see if he's telling the truth about his abilities

Guys there are three more scum NPCs

Icibalus wrote:Wait a miniute!

Guys, isn't it obvious?

The TOWN NPCS MUST COUNT AS GALLIANS.

That's how they can kill so many. PRIORITIZE KILLING THE REBEL NPCS!

You do realise that the only way the town NPCs can die is if a scum NPC shoots them, and the scum ones aren't going to be around for much longer.

The AV has been added to the Lanseal list.

Here are the NPCs:

RebelScum03
RebelScum04
RebelScum06

We should be able to kill them pretty easily if people just pile shots onto them.

ElusiveBelle wrote:

Dragonfire77111 wrote:Do you think there's a possibility that there are two roles called the Tech Veteran? I think either that, or one of the rolecards had a typo because it makes no sense for Chik's role to find out the alignments of andilin's visits if they didn't know each other from the start (which they obviously didn't as the Atlantics can win without scum).

it's possible they have a QT together as well, I highly doubt there would be two roles with the same flavour name like that. I'm actually pretty very certain there are quite a few QTs going on between several groups and people. They share a goal of helping rebellion win, but the rebellion is aiding the Atlantic in exchange for their help

You think Atlantics and the Rebellion are actively working together? If so then we need to be extra suspicious of all neutral claims, especially unconfirmed factions such as Darscen.

ElusiveBelle wrote:No signs of a random event a half hour before the ITA's either it seems, hmmm

Also I want to talk more about the partnering system that seems to be going but thus far inconsistent. Chik had a teammate known as the Tech Veteran, Andilin was the Tech Veteran however both were not of the same alignment. They won together but had different objectives. How many of these groupings should we assume they are and if they know each other or how they interact.

Do you think there's a possibility that there are two roles called the Tech Veteran? I think either that, or one of the rolecards had a typo because it makes no sense for Chik's role to find out the alignments of andilin's visits if they didn't know each other from the start (which they obviously didn't as the Atlantics can win without scum).

I'm with Stri on Olly being a bad shot. Ici would also be bad seeing as he's being investigated as it is.

I'd be up for shooting Wabbit, Ultii too since they're a scumread of mine & probably not town anyway, maybe one of the sheep like Super. Or I could just go for a Rebel NPC or TPA/Cow (although I believe their faction over Wabbit's tbh).

JammySplodge wrote:When did we agree I should be checked I don't remember that discussion

Elusive is talking about his night chat with Obi

oh yeah and I slept peacefully (or just didn't receive a night result PM due to andilin, I don't know)

Glad I survived the night, and pleased to see andilin gone, it's a bonus he was scum as well. Too bad about Bottle and the NPCs though.

Everyone who shot UNDER is basically confirmed not Rebellion, I don't see why they would risk killing a fellow scum like that. By this logic, Schultz is not Rebellion. My guess would be that he is Neutral, probably Rebellion-sided Neutral seeing as he didn't claim it.

Wolf is your guilty on Malax legit?

I believe Olly seeing as he was one of the tank's targets yesterday and I liked his reaction test. That said, any more fake guilties are just going to get annoying.

After looking through Malax's ISO I don't think he's scum for sure anymore, just nullscum. He's done some weird things but next to others he's fine.

Some scummy things he's done: fakeclaimed town power just after replacing in, sheeped on the melanora wagon because "it's fun to see her angry", voted UNDER with no reasoning and then said "I don't want to give reasons" for his vote, told UNDER he was "being played like a fiddle" but refused to elaborate, and contradicted himself by both advocating and dismissing a lynch on a neutral in the same post.

Erravi I found your list of reasons why you suspect me, I'll try to address them.

Erravi wrote:#233 and #252 have the exact sentiment I commented on earlier. I've called this the newcomer excuse which this essentially is but with 'there's too many people'. #301 is voting Olly with the first post (contradictory to earlier statements, but w/e). Tentative reads are listed here at #1171 with revealing a reaction test on Olly. Not sure I'd call it a reaction test since it seemed more substantial, but I'm hardly one to tell anyone to classify anything.

The vote on Olly was a reaction test - if I'd placed a naked vote it could have been counted as RVS, but by poorly "justifying" it I ensured I'd get a response out of him.

#2091, why are you happy about both shots failing? Lengthy TvTs tend to be self destructive, wouldn't it be better to avoid it entirely?

Yes, but I felt quite sure at that point that they would eventually stop fighting and cooperate with each other, and that it would be a waste for one of them to die now.

#2091 has a brief mention of Ultiix for full disclosure. #2127 has more on Wabbit (with a brief mention of not liking other posts). Ultimately, while I'm not seeing anything very anti-towny, I'm hardly seeing these protown vibes others are seeing. Really, the weirdest thing is never following up on their comments on Ultiix in any depth or Malax at all. No idea why Dragon is scumreading Malax (although I have no idea who they are, tbf). So I guess a bit more explanation would be cool, but it's not like we have a decent bar set anywhere above ground in this game.

As I said in my reads post, if you want an explanation then just ask. My read on Malax wasn't a very strong scumread but I'm still not liking Ultii. I'll drag up some of their posts for you in a minute. Right now I'm just wondering why your vote was on me when you claimed you weren't seeing anything very anti-towny in my posts.

ladd wrote:wabbit and tpa are neutrals

idm getting rid of S0meone

idr any posts from Super I think?

Ici has been townie and I like him so he is off limits

Super's literally a sheep. No more no less. S0meone's barely posted, and I agree about Ici seeming more townie.

Looked through FML's ISO.

He was suspicious of S0meone, Ici, Super, Wabbit and TPA. He shot Wabbit in the first ITA. Also found this:

elusive claimed to be able to open a chat w/ me, im expecting to be visited by then tonight. if not i will be sad but idrc tht much.

100% miss rate lmao - scum didn't see that one coming