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GJ Ladd and Heythere, I didn't really have to do anything which is yay.

Santa07 wrote:
TheWolfBuddy wrote:@santa can I change my action and you redo daystart

help ;'(

This isn't CFM12 m8

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@Ladd
wtf are you high on.

First off you're cherry picking on Sircakez, I've been in two games I remember Sircakez as mafia, TFM31(as his teammate) and CFM16 in both of which I believe he did the opposite and instead decided to townread his teammates and in CFM16 was openly buddy buddy with at least one of his mafia teammates.

From your reasoning alone in the first paragraph, it sounds like Elusive should be more likely to be a scumbuddy with Cakez than I am.

Later you switch this and say that you believe Elusive and Hethere can either not be scum or scum team with Cakez.

I find it very interesting you decide not to mention Heythere more, especially with his posts beforehand.

"though i am town readining taylork more individually, they have horrible associations with cakez"
Citation needed.

Anyways, as I said previously, if you all wanted to do a proper lynch then you need to get a claim out of someone a decent amount of time before the lynch not at the moment. A quicklynch on Cakez like that could have easily been in part organized or at least supported by scum. If I cannot think it through, then I will not take part in a lynch that could senselessly slaughter a town member.

Now are you so certain that you read through the Cakez wagon posts 20 times, because I've read through it twice and it seems like you're entirely ignoring Heythere, who would appear to be more likely of defending their scumbuddy than I such as these posts made when Cakez was L-1.

heytheregirl17 wrote:Cakez is L-1 and hasn't been allowed a defense yet. We could be lynching a mayor. I am not okay with this.

heytheregirl17 wrote:just watch this. he's gonna flip godfather or something and i'm gonna look like an asshole for defending it

But seriously. Everything about that wagon just screams scum. I'd prefer a nolynch over that because for all we know... let's be honest, it's bastard. We know nothing. Why hang a townread, out of everyone?

heytheregirl17 wrote:DEAR GOD CAKEZ JUST CLAIM

heytheregirl17 wrote:... dear god

It sounds like Heythere is literally begging for Cakez to live and that they had no plan on hammering Sircakez in the slightest.

For comparison, here's mine.

taylork2 wrote:Woah, Cakez is at N-1, not prepared to see that.

I would want him to give roleclaim and to know why he is being lynched.

I can hammer, but I do want to read arguments for a Cakez lynch beforehand.

P-edit: 20minutes, great.

taylork2 wrote:
ladd wrote:I read the first pages of the parallel world but then I got bored, so I decided to just ISO the top wagons and my top scumread from the first few pages, which was Cakez. So here is the stuff I hate about Cakez ISO:

Reads progression
His opening post and most of his reads progression were awful. He town read Purple almost immediately for something it's more player indicative than alignment indicative, easiest way to get town read as scum is to get discussion going in the early going and this read has not changed despite the fact that Cakez repeatedly disagreed with him. His scumreading of Arc for memes is bullshit, Arc scum meta is basically the opposite of meta and Cakez played a lot of games with Arc so he should know it plus some posts after he calls FML meme voting NAI while I am pretty sure FML has the reputation of being a good town player too. The "strong scumread" on Arc after he replaced out looks like fake scum confidence and then Taylork claims to have been injected nanotechnologies and he just completely drops it. having nanoed scum is actually pretty dangerous and considering like two posts after he states that he does not have strong scumreads I don't get why he just let it go so easily, he didn't even try to see if there is associations around the Arc slot, he just ignored every Taylork post. If I had such a confident scumread, first thing I would check is associations even if the player in question is for example doused ( see 11F ).

SirCakez wrote:WHY DO I KEEP JOINING BASTARD GAMES

sigh
I slept peacefully.
fuck hypoing, the rolelist is closed.

Purple attacking Chubby for nitpicking and Chubby's said nitpicking actually look town to me, town are usually the ones eager to get into scumhunting. Scum usually want to meme around for longer to avoid good scumhunting.

Case in point, this guy
/vote arc

This is the opening post btw, the Purple line is just awful.

Rest of his ISO has some ok posts, but his obsession for replace out is both annoying and scummy and then he switched from Elusive to Alex despite scumreading both and Alex basically having zero posts while Elusive posted a lot and he could actually pressure them. This and the scumread on everyone who replaced out is either really lazy scumhunting or fake scumhunting.

Meta
I think I have played with cakez more than anyone else in this game and this looks a lot more like his scum meta than his town meta. You can see the stubborness of town cakes here and there, but overall Cakez as scum is really overconfident and this is what I am seeing here more than his town thing. His Arc read is textbook Cakez. there is also another cakez scumtell I picked up, but I'd rather not out it since I have enjoyed being able to read Cakez since basically CFM12 and I don't want him to change his meta.

Associations
Lucky is the most obvious one, if Cakes is group scum Lucky is like 99% scum with him. he answered my questions about mechanical stuff, but did not acknowledge anything I said about Cakes in the slightest. I can't remember the last time someone ignored me like that and rolled town. This scumtell has worked for me every game since the DA ( with ramer, ICE can confirm ) except once. When you see an unexplained vote like mine the first town reaction is to ask why, while scum is usually worried that asking would make them look bad ( esp asking the motivation of a read on a scumbuddy ). It's especially bad since Lucky actually asked for reason when FML naked voted ICE, but he completely ignored me naked voting Cakez despite me and him being literally the only ones posting in the thread.

Besides this, there is an awkward refuse to vote Cakez and resistance to the wagon from pretty much everyone who posted, not everyone can be scum, but I have yet to see anyone explain why they are town reading Cakez. When you can't get a wagon through but no one can actually explain why, this is a pretty good mafia tell. We are not at that point yet, but I dislike it.

I've actually played with Cakez alot as well, always when he's been a scum teammate, or when I'm town and he's scum.

I only know scum Cakez, I don't know town Cakez, and you're correct on him acting overconfident and attempting to get conversation going.

I think Cakez may be scum, I'll hammer him 3 minutes before Day end if he doesn't claim now.

taylork2 wrote:RESULT NOW!

What makes you so certain that I would be a scumbuddy with Sircakez over Heythere?

They're real qualities buffs I tell you.

I must do it, for science.

I loved SA 2 and I'd probably like it even more if I didn't die N1.

xdxdxd

Santa07 wrote:Anyone who wants a buff PM me

Modkill incoming.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:
SirCakez wrote:feelsbadman < lucky right now

Cakez confirmed white supremacist! Use of pepe meme. lul

Spoiler:

lucky333123 wrote:Please just kill me. It is annoying to have to post when one knows that they are going to be dead.

I disagree, I actually find the experience to be enjoyable as if I am scum I can use the time to be as honest as possible.
Unless I'm town, then I'd be entirely enraged that I am going to be mislynched, which has thankfully never happened.

Anyways I failed/didn't hammer Sircakez, so I'd like to hammer Lucky instead for memes.

frop418 wrote:If u weren't scum, you wouldn't give up.

That's more of a player on player basis, some people will just give up as town, or just give up as scum, or will give up as both.
It depends on the player more than the role.

lucky333123 wrote:
taylork2 wrote:@ Lucky
Is this literally your first game?
How many games of FM have you played?

11 not including ongoing. However, some of them are NFM (actually a good portion are) and many of them I died early or replaced into a slot that was confirmed scum (or was going to be lynched no matter what). My first SFM game I was so confused especially since I replaced in with no idea what I was doing. I also have very little experience when it comes to depending myself since I usually end up being killed by mafia. This is my second SFM game and while I'm slightly disoriented, I'm not as confused as the first game.

If that's the case, then I believe you're lying Lucky and I see no reason to take the chance and spare you.
If you're not lying and what you have claimed is your role then remember 2 things.
1. You tell the town fucking everything immediately if you're not lying to them.
2. The town does not normally view neutrals favorably.

If you are lying then:
Spoiler:

I think I'm ready to lynch Lucky.

@Heythere
It was just an example of an off feeling, I don't care for an explanation to such a vague feeling.

@ Lucky
Is this literally your first game?
How many games of FM have you played?

@Purple
1. I'm lazy and didn't want to deeply explain any of my reads and didn't even particularly want to make a reads list as I don't hold any particularly strong convictions I haven't already expressed so =>
2. I did not put any deep thinking into my original reads list so =>
Moon-General contribution and opinions I felt were town, nothing in specific I referenced or looked at when making the read
Chubby- I actually did look at some posts for Chubby, his short but straight and to the point posts, level of responsiveness, and lack of any negative trailing posts, came back as a decent town indicator.
Heythere- Reasons holdover from Day 1, a lack of anything protown that particularly caught my attention today, and a general feeling I get when I read some of their posts, I should look into it more to give a proper explanation.
Posts like this in Heythere's case:

heytheregirl17 wrote:Hey, I started discussion again, didn't I?

Wait a sec... You're around. More discussion! Tell me what you think of my list. What would you change?

I'm not going to lie when I say I've haven't been deeply thinking about most of this.
I generally play/find scum by POE by looking at any trails scum have found, so I don't really ever deeply think about what makes someone a town member. You can see this in my other games as well, I'm basically a VI starting out in a game.

ie. I'm lazy so I use POE after scum die or with invests results, and I disliked writing this.

@Chubby
I understand Lex, but why am I at the top of your townreads?

@Lucky

This is the first post you made regarding your role and alignment. This was posted at 3:47pm Central time.

lucky333123 wrote:
frop418 wrote:It said something to the affect that someone tampered with me.

It sounds like what happened to ICE and me.

SirCakez wrote:OK yeah this is definitely scum.
Lucky's subalignment is Stalker. I see like no way that could be town.

/vote lucky

Sorry to ask this but what exactly is Stalker?

Since it is obvious that everyone wants me to claim, I will. I am a Zombie Wrangler. I'm not exactly sure what this role is but basically I can watch a someone but I can't tell who visits them but I can see what suballignment(s). It seems like some twisted form of lookout.

Night 1 My actions were tampered with. I tried to watch FML that night.

Last night, I watched Chubby last night but nobody visited. I choose Chubby because I was suspicious of him and I was hoping someone would visit him. I basically debated between heythere and Chubby, but eventually choose Chubby.

This is a post made at 5:30pm Central Time the next day. This is the first time you're mentioned Ghoul Stalker(not stalker, but GHOUL stalker). It is also the 20th post you've made after your first claim post.

lucky333123 wrote:
JammySplodge wrote:How do you "suspect" that you're Neutral

Your RC would say [alignment] [subalignment]

Not sure how you would miss it tbh

Because my rolecard doesn't have a blatant alignment. It just says Ghoul Stalker. I don't even know if there is an alignment that say Ghoul....the reason why I think I may be more of a neutral is because Ghoul is in gray but Stalker is in brown, thus I really don't know what to make of my rolecard.

1. Why would you withhold Ghoul Stalker for so long after claiming?
2. You said you had no other alignment besides Stalker, but then you said it's Ghoul Stalker, why would you make such a contradiction?
3. Why did you question what Stalker was in your original claim post?
4. Why did you claim ignorance of your subalignment in your original claim post?
5. Why did you not claim what your wincon was in your original claim post?

Can't take a joke?

Anyways I'm changing my stance on you to a 3 instead of 4 since I'm a dumbfuck who can't even remember what you were posting.

I thought you were taking a more in defense of Lucky living/believing Lucky stance than you were, however I was mistaken.
I do not however like these two posts you made on the subject, but I feel town vibes(why is town vibes even a thing?) from your others on the subject.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:
lucky333123 wrote:
JammySplodge wrote:How do you "suspect" that you're Neutral

Your RC would say [alignment] [subalignment]

Not sure how you would miss it tbh

Because my rolecard doesn't have a blatant alignment. It just says Ghoul Stalker. I don't even know if there is an alignment that say Ghoul....the reason why I think I may be more of a neutral is because Ghoul is in gray but Stalker is in brown, thus I really don't know what to make of my rolecard.

Shit missed this. Yes that is very clearly and obviously Neutral.

Another thing: what are the odds that we don't only have a Hijacker but also a transporter type role (one Scum and one Town just like the Journalists). What I am suggesting is that Cakez could be Town that was transported N1. Just saying it's a possibility that keeps annoying me. Which is why I want to know if anyone has a standard sub alignment. I will assume that everyone who posted since I asked the question doesn't have a standard sub alignment.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:
lucky333123 wrote:
frop418 wrote:Lucky now that you are going to be lycnhed anyways, can you tell us our real role.

I'm actually telling the truth about my role.

I'm not nano...wish I was because it would be cooler role than what I am currently.

Town could win with me if Ultiix is not telling the truth about his role. It really just depends on Ultiix's role. You guys can lynch me if you want, but I just know that I am not the best target.

Question: if lucky proves he has this "sub alignment lookout" type role would that prove that he isn't someone worth killing yet? What if we let him live and leashed him? We can prove he is the lookout bullshit by just having someone do something on a known target and lucky can tell us their sub, if she gets it right we will know. Lucky can you watch yourself?

I do have a question though Purple, why do you believe Lucky didn't mention Ghoul Stalker in his original claim post and in fact asked this:

lucky333123 wrote:Sorry to ask this but what exactly is Stalker?

Now that I've reread parts, I have more questions in a moment.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:
taylork2 wrote:From likely Town to likely Scum
1. Lexiam
2. Chubby, Moon, Ladd
3. Everyone Else
4.Heythere, Purple
5.Nobody right now.

Scum: Lucky, Sircakez

I need to read into things more, and I'd also like to see what Lucky and Cakez flip as for associatives.

I also need to explain my change on Purple >.>

If you say "Purple isn't being an idiot now so he's confirmed scum gg" then I will kms.

Purple isn't being an idiot now so he's confirmed scum gg

From likely Town to likely Scum
1. Lexiam
2. Chubby, Moon, Ladd
3. Everyone Else
4.Heythere, Purple
5.Nobody right now.

Scum: Lucky, Sircakez

I need to read into things more, and I'd also like to see what Lucky and Cakez flip as for associatives.

I also need to explain my change on Purple >.>

Btw this is a thing if any of you didn't know(I didn't because I didn't bother to look before now)

Santa07 wrote:You thought you had escaped, but the apocalypse was never going to free you from its grasp so easily...

Salem Apocalypse III

The year was 2085.
And the US government had finally found a source of hope.
News had come from far off that the ZOM-B virus had been exterminated in Salem, by a crew of Pirates from far off.

If one town could be saved, then so could the whole country. Diplomats were sent in to reason with these pirates, to try to re-claim Salem, and gain knowledge of the cure.

But the pirates were stubborn, and reason was never going to work. The remaining finances of the depleted government were gambled away to the pirates for the town and the resources. Eventually, the pirates took the bribe and moved off. Salem was in the hands of the US military.

A research centre was built, to help duplicate the cure and release America from these years of torment. Things were finally looking up, America was beginning to find its feet once more…

Five years later, America was on a road to rebirth. The Salem Advanced Institute for Illness Inquisition (or SAIII for short) was now being used to develop advanced drugs and medicines to rebuild the country. Plans had been made to build a huge particle accelerator below the city to experiment with the laws of physics. Construction of the accelerator had recently achieved completion, with initial experiments and testing ready to go.

But the borders were still shut, as the USA’s greatest enemy, the North Republic still had widespread reports of the virus. Many years ago this country was known as ‘Canada’ and was one of the most peaceful countries in the world, but a coup d’état by a group of rebels turned the country against its former allies, including the US. Now, the border between the two countries was strictly closed, however with the virus ravaging through their cities the people of the North Republic were intent on finding a cure, no matter what the cost.

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North Republic Capital Government Offices (CGO) - March 2091

North Republic CGO - May 2091

SAIII (NR Squad Com Records) - May 2091

Morning News - May 2091

Salem City Council Meeting - June 2091

To be continued…

Game Information:
Spoiler:

Parallel world looks like it's a rehash/continuation of CFM8.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:This is pointless conversation. Let's get to the end sooner rather than later:

Anyone who wants to lynch Cakez before Lucky write /Cakez in your next post.

Assuming that Lucky could in fact be the Nanotech/night immune and that the town may have a vigilante type role.

/lucky

Otherwise I don't really care unless I could only hammer/more likely to hammer one over the other.

moonbird wrote:
SirCakez wrote:Moon I don't think the guilty was aimed to protect lucky, I just think it's scum taking advantage of an easy mislynch thanks to pro tunneler Ladd who the whole town sheeped yesterday and that the fake guilty can get explained away by framing/redirection. Thanks for working with me though.

I find it interesting how all of the people tinfioiling me being scum bussing a neutral have just totally ruled out multiball.

?????????? to the first bit

maybe the fact that there's been a single nightkill thus far means no multiball?

This + nanotech messages.
Game balance would = hell.

Even if this is a multiball, it doesn't change the fact Sircakez and Lucky need to be killed.

ElusiveBelle wrote:We still have two days and lucky is at l-3, is there anything else that needs to be gone over after what we know already? We should be using all the time to cover things as needed before finishing the day.

So to bring things back to something again, what do we think the odds are of the mafia knowing someone who is immune? With the lack of a kill N1.

It's likely, it's unusual for games to have a kill completely disappear. The only exceptions would be a silent/neutral roleblocker or

moonbird wrote:>no one died N1
>cakez investigated lucky n2
>lucky is a neutral

:thinking:

Assuming that the mafia attacked Lucky n1, and that Sicakez/a mafia consig decided to invest them N2, and has now called them out.
Then the mafia would have to have a reason to out lucky, but they'd also have to have a reason to attack lucky, but I don't think they'd have a proper reason, or would attack Lucky n1.

Questions:
Has Lucky done anything considered high level performance or been playing a lot/well in recent games(like something that'd make him a target for being killed n1)?
Btw, when was the last time an inherently pro-town/anti-mafia neutral appeared in a non-GIM game?

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WTF

JammySplodge wrote:How do you "suspect" that you're Neutral

Your RC would say [alignment] [subalignment]

Not sure how you would miss it tbh

Unless it was a bad fakeclaim he came up with because he saw people pressuring him. >.>

ElusiveBelle wrote:So Cakez is still not confirming or denying the Stealthy thing or whatever? Always a good sigh and one I can actually back up as more concrete than "confirmed town" or not.
Something nicer to work with at the very least.

No, he is denying it.

SirCakez wrote:
ladd wrote:Lexiam and Heythere are 99% Town. If anyone disagrees, I can explain them, but I don't like making town cases unless the person in question is at risk of being lynched or in particular situations.

I don't need a towncase but some sort of reasoning for this would be cool, those are both uber null to me.

Mole - the reason Connoisseur was spelled wrong is because I wrote it off the top of my head due to the huge rush. Not exactly an everyday word. The flavor is about discerning different types of people, not supposed to argue flavor so not going in more depth.
lucky333123 wrote:If you were going to get lynched because of your role, wouldn't you also ask desperate. Also, don't you recall that I normally react this way.

Not changing my claim multiple times desperate.

Yes my subalignment is Investigative, why would I lie about that? Lexiam clarify how your role works please.

Given my own alignment, I'm disinclined to believe Sircakez sub-alignment is Investigative, and seeing as multiple other players also have this issue, I'm even more inclined to believe his claim is fake.

I also noticed Cakez instantly disbelieved the second journalist message, if he is mafia, then Lexiam is probably town member meanwhile the first journalist is probably a mafia buddy.

Okay just saw Lucky's ghoul stalker post, *sigh*.

moonbird wrote:@ladd thx baby

@lucky I only win with town, no other alignments. Confirms different alignments can have differing sub-alignments thou, so profit has been had.

Backsies, lynching lucky today.

Moon, I currently like your play and everything, but you're ruining everything I'm trying to do here, so please hold off on destroying the glass ceiling so we(I mostly mean myself unless someone else joins in) can do some basic testing.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:
taylork2 wrote:
PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:
lucky333123 wrote:What looks like bullshit? I'm pretty confused.

My subalignment is Stalker but I don't really know what exactly Stalker means. I win if I help Town get rid of at least one scum and I am successful is getting rid my "chosen" target. I may be some sort of neutral or something *shrugs*

So you claim not town?...

/intent to vote lucky

He didn't even claim neutral, he's not a benign neutral, he's scum, maybe nk, maybe mafia, but scum.

Did claim Neutral. He seems like a NE type Executioner role. All I am saying is that claiming anything but town = getting lynched.

Actually no, he didn't. This is what he claimed.

lucky333123 wrote:Since it is obvious that everyone wants me to claim, I will. I am a Zombie Wrangler.

If this game is based off of CFM6(?)(The CFM with nanotech and zombies), and the factions are similar/the same, then that claim can be taken as his alignment is Zombie Wrangler.
As in he literally claimed to be a mafia member.

And even in his next posts the most he has claimed about his alignment is roughly "maybe I'm neutral". T_T
No, he did not claim neutral, in fact the closest thing to an actual alignment he's claimed, is mafia.

I slept peacefully.

Wowzers, Lucky claimed scum.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote: Spoiler:
lucky333123 wrote:What looks like bullshit? I'm pretty confused.

My subalignment is Stalker but I don't really know what exactly Stalker means. I win if I help Town get rid of at least one scum and I am successful is getting rid my "chosen" target. I may be some sort of neutral or something *shrugs*

So you claim not town?...

/intent to vote lucky

He didn't even claim neutral, he's not a benign neutral, he's scum, maybe nk, maybe mafia, but scum.

I need to read more and form better opinions about people, but I'm going to be busy tonight and most of tomorrow night, and somewhat busy this weekend..
I'll find some time this weekend.

I wholeheartedly believe we should lynch lucky, however it hasn't even been 24 hours since Daystart, there's no need to lynch them any day soon.

Moleland wrote:
taylork2 wrote:I slept peacefully.

frop418 wrote:Wth, I think I was rbed but the wording seems off

What did the message say?

Yeah, one of the journalist messages is probably made by scum.

Could it be one is a mad journalist? We can't assume either is scum

What is a mad journalist?

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