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TheWolfBuddy wrote:ladd just dominates town and lynches anyone who can even try to scumread them

frop418 wrote:Ladd and heythere had voted Lucky so we couldn't win with them.

frop418 wrote:First Pirate wincon be like: Same wincon as mafia but we can't kill.

Second Pirate wincon be like: Become a 9 person exe -,-

ladd wrote:I read the first pages of the parallel world but then I got bored, so I decided to just ISO the top wagons and my top scumread from the first few pages, which was Cakez. So here is the stuff I hate about Cakez ISO:

Reads progression
His opening post and most of his reads progression were awful. He town read Purple almost immediately for something it's more player indicative than alignment indicative, easiest way to get town read as scum is to get discussion going in the early going and this read has not changed despite the fact that Cakez repeatedly disagreed with him. His scumreading of Arc for memes is bullshit, Arc scum meta is basically the opposite of meta and Cakez played a lot of games with Arc so he should know it plus some posts after he calls FML meme voting NAI while I am pretty sure FML has the reputation of being a good town player too. The "strong scumread" on Arc after he replaced out looks like fake scum confidence and then Taylork claims to have been injected nanotechnologies and he just completely drops it. having nanoed scum is actually pretty dangerous and considering like two posts after he states that he does not have strong scumreads I don't get why he just let it go so easily, he didn't even try to see if there is associations around the Arc slot, he just ignored every Taylork post. If I had such a confident scumread, first thing I would check is associations even if the player in question is for example doused ( see 11F ).

SirCakez wrote:WHY DO I KEEP JOINING BASTARD GAMES

sigh
I slept peacefully.
fuck hypoing, the rolelist is closed.

Purple attacking Chubby for nitpicking and Chubby's said nitpicking actually look town to me, town are usually the ones eager to get into scumhunting. Scum usually want to meme around for longer to avoid good scumhunting.

Case in point, this guy
/vote arc

This is the opening post btw, the Purple line is just awful.

Rest of his ISO has some ok posts, but his obsession for replace out is both annoying and scummy and then he switched from Elusive to Alex despite scumreading both and Alex basically having zero posts while Elusive posted a lot and he could actually pressure them. This and the scumread on everyone who replaced out is either really lazy scumhunting or fake scumhunting.

Meta
I think I have played with cakez more than anyone else in this game and this looks a lot more like his scum meta than his town meta. You can see the stubborness of town cakes here and there, but overall Cakez as scum is really overconfident and this is what I am seeing here more than his town thing. His Arc read is textbook Cakez. there is also another cakez scumtell I picked up, but I'd rather not out it since I have enjoyed being able to read Cakez since basically CFM12 and I don't want him to change his meta.

Associations
Lucky is the most obvious one, if Cakes is group scum Lucky is like 99% scum with him. he answered my questions about mechanical stuff, but did not acknowledge anything I said about Cakes in the slightest. I can't remember the last time someone ignored me like that and rolled town. This scumtell has worked for me every game since the DA ( with ramer, ICE can confirm ) except once. When you see an unexplained vote like mine the first town reaction is to ask why, while scum is usually worried that asking would make them look bad ( esp asking the motivation of a read on a scumbuddy ). It's especially bad since Lucky actually asked for reason when FML naked voted ICE, but he completely ignored me naked voting Cakez despite me and him being literally the only ones posting in the thread.

Besides this, there is an awkward refuse to vote Cakez and resistance to the wagon from pretty much everyone who posted, not everyone can be scum, but I have yet to see anyone explain why they are town reading Cakez. When you can't get a wagon through but no one can actually explain why, this is a pretty good mafia tell. We are not at that point yet, but I dislike it.

Moleland wrote:Why would scum Cakez attempt to Reaction test Rhazh's slot?

I'm not keen on a Cakez lynch today. I'd be Ok to lynch some of my null reads, except Purple.